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10-04-2011 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
You really don't care that Obama has completely abandoned his promise to be a uniiter not a divider?
Every politician claims that. Every politician breaks that promise.
10-04-2011 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
If she is smart (lol) she will just endorse Cain and angle to get some kind of job after the election. Though whether that is in the white house or the fox news studio is another question.
lol you think Cain is going to win?
10-04-2011 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Every politician claims that. Every politician breaks that promise.
I really do not agree. Maybe because it was the hope I had for Obama or because he sold it so well.
10-04-2011 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
I really do not agree. Maybe because it was the hope I had for Obama or because he sold it so well.
You don't recall W using that same shtick? And Clinton before him?
10-04-2011 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
You don't recall W using that same shtick? And Clinton before him?
I think Clinton and W and every other President makes promises to reach across the aisle. It is a political reality. But I don't remember them promising to unite the country like Obama.
10-04-2011 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
You really don't care that Obama has completely abandoned his promise to be a uniiter not a divider?
Obama has done nothing but move towards the republicans - who have done nothing be move further right and do everything they can to thwart everything he's tried to do. How much harder can he try to be a uniter? What exactly would you have him do besides just convert to full-blown republican?
10-04-2011 , 03:13 PM
lol thwart.


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10-04-2011 , 03:13 PM
Suzzer here is a WSJ op ed that summarizes my feelings. I am not saying his idea's have been to left wing I am saying his politics have been divisive when he promised to do the exact opposite.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...798363586.html
10-04-2011 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Obama has done nothing but move towards the republicans - who have done nothing be move further right and do everything they can to thwart everything he's tried to do. How much harder can he try to be a uniter? What exactly would you have him do besides just convert to full-blown republican?
Seriously, this.
10-04-2011 , 03:25 PM
That article is ridiculous. Take:

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Mr. Obama has also cynically divided the country on class lines. He has taken to playing the populist card time and time again. He bashes Wall Street and insurance companies whenever convenient to advance his programs...
Wall Street and insurance companies (assuming he means Health Insurance Companies) deserve a lot of bashing. I don't think Obama ever promised that he wouldn't say anything bad about anyone, ever.

There's a lot of words in that article but very few actual factual points. And most of them are as ridiculous as the one I quoted.
10-04-2011 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
That article is ridiculous. Take:



Wall Street and insurance companies (assuming he means Health Insurance Companies) deserve a lot of bashing. I don't think Obama ever promised that he wouldn't say anything bad about anyone, ever.

There's a lot of words in that article but very few actual factual points. And most of them are as ridiculous as the one I quoted.
Well obv his politics of division is working for ya. Just wasn't his campaign platform.
10-04-2011 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Suzzer here is a WSJ op ed that summarizes my feelings. I am not saying his idea's have been to left wing I am saying his politics have been divisive when he promised to do the exact opposite.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...798363586.html
Lol that article (from 15 months ago) is a complete joke. Let's see what hot button issues they're using as evidence:

(First we have 6 paragraphs of fluff that literally say nothing except assert that Obama is being racially divisive and some concern trolling that the author really wanted to be on his side - yeah right)

Then in the 7th paragraph he finally gets to his first piece of concrete evidence- the whole Louis Gates/Cambridge police thing. Remember that? Barely? Oh yeah, gigantic issue that really turned the country on it's ear and will be a huge campaign issue. Oh wait...

Then we have this gem:
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Sen. Jon Kyl (R., Ariz.) has said the president told him in a closed-door meeting that he would not move to secure the border with Mexico unless and until Congress reached a breakthrough on comprehensive immigration reform. That's another indication Mr. Obama is willing to continue to play politics with hot-button issues.
ZOMG WTF BBQ. How dare the president play politics on hot button issues. What a big meanie. We all know republicans have never, and would never, do anything of the sort. Oh wait...


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As the Washington Post reported last week, two top White House strategists, speaking on condition of anonymity, have indicated that "the White House plans to use the immigration debate to punish the GOP and aggressively seek the Latino vote in 2012."
Holy hell. Does this man have no shame??? Pure scandal. How has the MSM ignored this horrible cynical ploy to use immigration as an issue with Latino voters. What a scumbag.


And then the coup de gras - the hot button issue on everyone's mind:
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On an issue that has gotten much less attention, but is potentially just as divisive, the Justice Department has pointedly refused to prosecute three members of the New Black Panther Party for voter intimidation at the polls on Election Day 2008.
wat


Then we have some random chick not connected to the administration rambling about racism, then some point about black unemployment being high, then some whining about Obama calling out insurance companies and Wall. St. Heaven forbid, a democrat call out corporate excess. What is this world coming to?

And finally 3 more paragraphs of rambling assertions.

Utterly worthless article. Shocking the WSJ would come out with a puff piece against Obama. Seriously shocking. Someone should let Rupert know about this so he can tighten up the ship over there.
10-04-2011 , 03:33 PM
I actually believe that most candidates are sincere when they promise to be uniters, rather than dividers. Reality just doesn't permit them to accomplish that on any sustained basis.
10-04-2011 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
lol you think Cain is going to win?
Likely? No. I thought Romney was the favourite when Perry polled bigger than him, i clearly think Romney is the favourite now he is back leading the field. But i think Cain is positioned pretty well to get to the last two with Romney right now and from there...who knows.
10-04-2011 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Lol that article (from 15 months ago) is a complete joke. Let's see what hot button issues they're using as evidence:

(First we have 6 paragraphs of fluff that literally say nothing except assert that Obama is being racially divisive and some concern trolling that the author really wanted to be on his side - yeah right)

Then in the 7th paragraph he finally gets to his first piece of concrete evidence- the whole Louis Gates/Cambridge police thing. Remember that? Barely? Oh yeah, gigantic issue that really turned the country on it's ear and will be a huge campaign issue. Oh wait...

Then we have this gem:


ZOMG WTF BBQ. How dare the president play politics on hot button issues. What a big meanie. We all know republicans have never, and would never, do anything of the sort. Oh wait...


And then:


Holy hell. Does this man have no shame??? Pure scandal. How has the MSM ignored this horrible cynical ploy to use immigration as an issue with Latino voters. What a scumbag.


And then the coup de gras - the hot button issue on everyone's mind:


wat


Then we have some random chick not connected to the administration rambling about racism, then some point about black unemployment being high, then some whining about Obama calling out insurance companies and Wall. St. Heaven forbid, a democrat call out corporate excess. What is this world coming to?

And finally 3 more paragraphs of rambling assertions.

Utterly worthless article. Shocking the WSJ would come out with a puff piece against Obama. Seriously shocking. Someone should let Rupert know about this so he can tighten up the ship over there.
Damn you type fast. I guess me and the knuckleheads at the WSJ just don't understand what a good job Mr "there is no red state there is no blue state" has done. Some of my disappointment is that I thought that Obama was such a strong communicator with a unique background that I had higher hopes that he could bring the people together. Does anyone believe that the country is horribly divided? Am I the only one that thinks that the leader of this country who promised to unite should be held accountable for failing to do so? It appears so.
10-04-2011 , 03:37 PM
Suzzer, you forgot that the NBP party dudes who weren't prosecuted didn't do anything wrong. I mean, that statement is so overtly racist that I'm at a loss as to how it got published.

Also, my favorite, since it's a pet issue:

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Add in the lawsuit against the Arizona immigration law and it's clear the Obama administration is willing to run the risk of dividing the American people along racial and ethnic lines to mobilize its supporters—particularly Hispanic voters, whose backing it needs in the fall midterm elections and beyond.
"Obama is dividing the country along racial and ethnic lines! By...fighting a law meant to divide the country along racial and ethnic lines!"
10-04-2011 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Damn you type fast. I guess me and the knuckleheads at the WSJ just don't understand what a good job Mr "there is no red state there is no blue state" has done.
Oh yeah, Obama is totally dividing this country by not letting the racists have their way on everything. If he really meant that there were no red states and blue states, then then he would have rounded up all the illegals and deported them by now (and if a few brown citizens get wrapped up in the mess, no biggie), and locked up all the scary blacks. Instead, we have this guy saying mean things about rich white people. The nerve!
10-04-2011 , 03:41 PM
Dont forget that the case against the scary black men was dismissed under Bush.
10-04-2011 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
You really don't care that Obama has completely abandoned his promise to be a uniiter not a divider?
suzzer, forget that WSJ article, we can just bask in the glow of that the most recent example of Obama being divisive is that he mentioned that a GOP crowd booed a gay soldier. Which is "whining". LOL.


I mean, sure one party has become so reactionary and ******ed they can't even hold a Presidential primary debate without embarrassing the country on national television. But that 0bama... he has the GALL to mention those things in passing!

He's tearing our country apart! Without him we could all unite in our mutual dislike of gays, Muslins, Mexicans, and those lazy poors.
10-04-2011 , 03:46 PM
The problem with American today and specifically why there is no common ground being found right now is the Republicans wont compromise on anything. Not a single ****ing thing. The "i wont take 10:1 cuts:revenue increases in a deficit reduction plan" at the debates was a great example of this.

Its possible Obama naively assumed that after the complete aborted cluster**** the economy became when he took over that everyone would try and work together and get stuff done which needed to be done. But its hard to hate on a guy wanting to achieve things fighting against a group whose only goal is to undermine him.
10-04-2011 , 03:48 PM
Dont forget "class warfare". Which is when you attack everyone equally. When you just attack the poor that is "what Jesus would have done".
10-04-2011 , 03:49 PM
How about we just go with failing to unite? FFS can you guys even attempt to see an issue from a different perspective?
10-04-2011 , 03:50 PM
So basically you hate Obama because he hasn't stopped you from hating Obama?
10-04-2011 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Well obv his politics of division is working for ya. Just wasn't his campaign platform.
How is "bashing wall street and health care companies" going against his campaign platform? Hell he probably did that a number of times DURING the ****ing campaign.
10-04-2011 , 03:53 PM
Misrepresenting the truth isn't just a different perspective.

      
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