I am glad to have Redman on board, even if he took a long look around the bar before taking Romney home.

It would be pretty epic if it becomes obvious that Obama will win reelection, and Redman is forced to jump ship and give a nice post explaining how he's onboard with Obama 2012 and why America needs 4 more years of Obama. The thought of such hilarity might just be enough to sway my support to Obama.

It really tilts me to no end when Mittleryouth bots just keep spewing hatred towards Obamacare when it's the same exact thing as Romney care.

Here is a table of the fees if you don't sign up for Romneycare in Massachusetts.



Here's the link to more info about it

There's no good argument the GOPtards can make for against Obamacare if Mittler gets elected.

In the end, I don't think there will be much of a difference between Romney and Obama either, except for maybe more damage to the long-term economy. I simply prefer the democrats to the repubs when it comes to money.

I want to pay less taxes than everyone else, sure, but not to the detriment of the country. No need to spark a huge fight/debate over this, I know the deficit has exploded, no need to point that out.

I just can't stand the blatant hyprocrisy of the repubs. The Democrats are lol-ish, but at least when Obama does something hyprocritical I can understand why he did what he did for political reasons. The GOP candidates just try to say the most outlandish stuff they can and somehow get applause for it.

Unreal.

Romney will get on both knees and beg for Rubio to be his VP

But it's ok if it's done on the state level! lol.

This argument makes no sense on many levels. First, do you think many supporters agree with every past decision of their preferred candidate? Secondly, Romney says he will get rid of Obamacare if he gets elected. There is no disconnect between supporting Romney and wanting to see Obamacare repealed.

@TomC-more than a touch of irony seeing a Paul supporter making "But it's ok if it's done on the state level! lol" statement. WTF?

Seems like it would be pretty high reward/low risk for Rubio to accept to be on the ticket. And Romney's interest in choosing him seems obvious too. I mean you have to try hard to be like Palin and get blamed for losing and embarrass yourself in the process.

Seems like if Rubio has Presidential aspirations, the rewards are:

- huge boost in national profile and a bunch of free media to pimp yourself
- access and networking and ability to build relationship with GOP elites and donors as part of the campaign
- national campaign experience, access to top-level advisers and coaching
- perception you're the "next-in-line" win (in 2020) or lose (in 2016)

Downsides? Seem Palin is instructive here:

- if you're unprepared and can't handle Katie Couric, maybe you don't want to accept. But then again if you can't handle Katie Couric, that speaks to bad things about your political future regardless
- some people will probably say the Tea Party types will hold it against Rubio for joining the ticket of a Northeastern moderate liberal Mormon guy, but then again, joining John McCain's ticket didn't cost Sarah Palin any points with the Tea Party.

Unless there's something I'm missing, I don't see why Rubio would ever turn down the opportunity unless there's some personal stuff or he's genuinely not interested in being President one day.

As a liberal I am glad to have redman on board too. He still seems to believe in the tea party but has come to the conclusion that the tea party is better served by liberal policies and I think that is his right. It is nice to see a conservative finally seeing the light.

I think if the economy keeps improving and UE keeps dropping. Rubio will put out strong word publicly that he has no interest in VP even before Mitt gets the chance to bend down and kiss his feet, but if this upbeat mood/improvement levels off then yeah I don't seem Rubio saying no.

I don't think you have a good read on Redman at all. Sorry for the poker analogy.

I don't see why he would be overly concerned about the political climate of the race. Even if Rubio calculates Romney is a big dog, I don't think the costs of being on a losing ticket are all that drastic and the rewards still tangible. VP guarantees a keynote role at the convention, free debate face time -- lots of time to get your mug on the teevee. For free. You have to be historically retarded to mess that up. And I mean Palin did parlay it into a profitable venture of selling herself to FNC and reality teevee show people and books and stuff.

Being the VP on a loser ticket isn't that big a deal for hurting your career. However, no one has done well from it in a long time.

We have:
Palin - embarrassment
Edwards - had a shot in 2008
Lieberman - pissed off his party
Kemp - old
Quayle - embarrassment
Bentsen - old
Ferarro - more prominent, but not really much happened
Mondale - ran in 1984
Rockefeller - died before 1980
Shriver - tried in 76 and didn't go anywhere

It's not a death sentence, but it's not a great help. For someone young, I don't see it hurting and getting prominence should be helpful.

Palin is clearly better off for having been picked...

Palin embarrassment may be accurate but her political clout and net worth have skyrocketed as a result. Had to be the best thing that ever happened to her.