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Old 01-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #18091
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Re: Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee?

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I think the end game always has the man must go element. I know if the original space capsules didn't need life support, they could have be able to accomplish more, but that doesn't advance the prime need. Lets say life is discovered, then what. Keep watching from afar, or develop the science. Huble has managed to bring such discoveries, just by orbiting above the noise of our atmosphere. The telescope had to go, not just the lens.

The one thing about Newt's premise, that private enterprise can move into space exploration, conveniently overlooks the USA, and its need to crush any other entity that might want to launch missiles. Look at the paranoia when that last satellite crashed, anyone who touched it would be treated as a war criminal, even though it wasn't on US soil.

Virgin can skirt the issue because he's chosen to use airframes for his joy ride.
I mean I think it would cool if we went to the moon again or went to Mars but we would learn so little and it would be such a epic waste of $$$ along with the fact that the fail rate would be very high. Compare that to sending a **** ton of probes to Mercury, the Sun, Mars, Venus, Jupiter, the Keiper belt, Uranus etc etc...we'd gain a millions times more knowledge and understanding about the Universe and ourselves.

but most people are dumb so they are gonna vote for sending people half way to Mars before they are killed.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #18092
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I can't remember exactly. Probably not that he was baptizing dead people.
Probably stuff like he submits to papal authority, superstitious people that believed in whacky stuff like demonic possession and exorcism. Do you think this is any different, or your comments any more enlightened than the Klan's hatred of Catholics?
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:31 PM   #18093
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Saying "Mormons believe in some stuff that I think is pretty weird" is hardly Klan-like imo.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:33 PM   #18094
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Saying "Mormons believe in some stuff that I think is pretty weird" is hardly Klan-like imo.
Saying their beliefs are "sick" is right there imo.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:34 PM   #18095
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Nuh-uh.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:36 PM   #18096
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Saying their beliefs are "sick" is right there imo.
weird is a better word
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:47 PM   #18097
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Saying their beliefs are "sick" is right there imo.
I think converting and baptizing people, after they are dead, and against their will, while they were alive, is sick.

If the Catholic Church was converting people to Catholicism against their will in 1960, I think it would be legitimate to say that JFK belongs to a sick religion.

I have no problem saying that the Catholic Church was sick during the Inquisition.

Anytime you do something against someone's will it is sick. The cover of religion does not cure that sickness.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:16 PM   #18098
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Could you point arround you and see or notice whether it is between 7.5% or 9% unemployment?
Those in the 1.5% can tell, and that's a whole bunch of people (millions). And they have friends and family who talk to their friends and their family. It can easily sway an election.
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:04 AM   #18099
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Saying their beliefs are "sick" is right there imo.
Like all religions it is a sick disgusting belief system that really warps the minds of those who are unfortunate enough to have to deal with it.
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:05 AM   #18100
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Saying their beliefs are "sick" is right there imo.
Cool story.

I guess the best defense against this is to just ignore and deflect the attack. Instead of doing something about you and your religion baptizing dead people against their will you get your supporters to say something irrelevant about JFK and the klan.

I still don't really know what JFK and the klan have to do with anything but if Kennedy did something similar I don't think it's wrong to call him and his religion out on it. So I guess I'm a klansman, or something.
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We already planted flags on the moon. Pretty sure we'll claim jurisdiction and there is not much anyone can do about it.
General Zod ended that.
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:18 AM   #18102
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Maybe a repost but ...

Romney, the GOP, & Mormon economics from October's Harper's magazine.

"Economic and theological thinking on the American right have merged, and, in a good many speeches from the House floor, have become virtually indistinguishable."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/72678075/Pennies-From-Heaven
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:24 AM   #18103
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By the way lou, considering that I think that it's pretty sick how the catholic church facilitated and covered up the rape of children I guess you can call me a klansman.
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:25 AM   #18104
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By the way lou, considering that I think that it's pretty sick how the catholic church facilitated and covered up the rape of children I guess you can call me a klansman.
Fair enough, Klansman
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:26 AM   #18105
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I'm still waiting for the Jackie Gleason/Newt Gingrich photoshop including "BANG! ZOOM! straight to the moon!"
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