I know 2+2 has a wide spectrum of highly intelligent posters in many parts of the world. This is the reason I am asking this question. The unimaginable suffering by civilians, men, women, and children alike is of course horrific. From a military perspective as a US citizen it does not break my heart that Al-Qaeda is fighting Syria and Hezbollah, which is also angering Hamas on the Al-Qaeda side. This is only a very small piece of the very complicated conflict. So please if you don't mind tell me what you want the final resolution in Syria to be and if this question is not too intrusive where you are posting from.

I hope the Vulcans step in and start neck pinching mother****ers. I am posting from a laptop.

A laptop, nice touch (:

I hope the millions of poor people that are killing each other over there will become aware of their true enemy once enough of their slave blood has been spilled. I hope the battlefield moves from the streets and onto the golf courses and country clubs, into the high rise luxury condominiums, and organic grocery stores. I hope the poor men stop raping their class sisters and instead target the idle trophy wives that complain about shiftless welfare leeches while never having worked a day in their lives. I hope to see the rich paraded through the streets and spat upon by the mob before they tear them all to pieces.

And I hope they put it all on youtube, cause you know the corporate media would never sanction us seeing what happens when the slave awakens to his true potential.

Turns out Slater is a trophy wife rape fan what a shocker.

Lets not forget there are Christian in Syria. But whoa dude this is interesting, what your saying sort of reminds me of this,

Ezekiel 25:17 Because you clapped and danced and cheered with glee at the destruction of my people, I will raise my fist of judgment against you. I will give you as plunder to many nations. I will cut you off from being a nation and destroy you completely. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

Of course the conflict in Syria has effected Iraq in a major way

Conflicting reports have the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), formerly the group commonly known as al Qaeda in Iraq, in partial control of Falluja, the site of some of the bloodiest fighting between U.S. forces and insurgents during the Iraq War.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/04/world/...iraq-violence/

The al Qaeda-backed group proclaimed it was in control of the heart of the city, with its flags planted on some government buildings and police stations, while two police officials and two tribal leaders told CNN that the vast majority of the city -- including government institutions and police stations -- was in the hands of Sunni tribesmen fighting alongside security forces.

What a disaster. In addition a major player in this situation ,Muqtada al-Sadr, the leader of the Mahdi Army which control areas of Iraq, could have been assassinated a few years back by coalition forces, but for some reason the mission was not carried out. Fast forward to 2014, Muqtada al-Sadr is a major player in Iraq

Paul Bremer is also to blame for the instability in the Middle east.

Oh great quoting fiction?

No troops as a bunch of countries just lost another invasion/war/occupation

Its not a big deal friend. Its actually a real quote, the Pulp fiction one was worded differently

The OP hits on a very good subject. There has been an influx of instability in both Iraq and of course Syria. The Mahdi Army, which operates in Iraq and controls slums in Iraq, is also funneling "Shia" fighters from Iraq to Syria.

Another important element to keep in mind here, aspects of both Shia and Sunni insurgencies are profiting off drug dealing, kidnapping, extortion, armed robberies. etc etc. This is interesting because this proves that much of these groups are criminal gangs as opposed to an Islamic group. The Islam thing is a tool at recruiting 8-14 y/o(not always this age group but many times it is) who have either lost their family, or have had someone murdered in their family due to the ongoing conflict.

A recent doc on Netflix, No End in Sight details the failures of Paul Bremer in Iraq. Along with showing how the leader of the Mahdi army(Iraq "shia" Militia) was, for some reason, not assassinated when the opportunity came fourth.

Anything but a half assed invasion.

If we go, go all-in for a long term occupation, preferably under the UN flag (see Serbia).

I'm for one side (either side) winning conclusively ASAP. No matter who wins at this point it won't be pretty... (expect the alawites to get ethnically cleansed if Asad loses... Obviously Asad is a horrible bastard who will extract terrible vengeance for this if he wins) But the longer it drags on the more it contaminates the rest of the region.

I hope Al Qaeda wins so they can establish an Islamic state that they predict be the bee's knees of justice, peace and tolerance. Or so they keep telling people.

Mox News is saying Al Qaeda (not Shia but Sunni militants) linked militants are gaining control of two Iraqi Cities Falliugu and Ramadi. As I type this message the battle is going on.


Iraq's prime minister on Monday urged residents and tribes of Fallujah to "expel" Al Qaeda militants from this western city to avoid an all-out battle -- remarks that may signal an imminent military move to retake the former insurgent stronghold.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01...from-fallujah/


It seems the contributors on Fox news are confused as who to help out.

i believe he was referencing the bible.

also, what a mess.

The US gov is letting the public know drones are being sent to Iraq to support the Iraq Gov. Although one could imagine this was already being done in a covert style.

The moderate rebels win a decisive victory, run country like pros.

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I believe your right on both accounts

It's about time we got a 51st state, although I was really thinking we should split up California.

flames shooting out of manhole covers in Damascus

I'm waiting for Putin to ask Israel for help.

Of Course In Syria, Al Assad is claiming he is fighting terrorists. It is quite clear that often this is the case. What is interesting is that when it comes to a situation like Syria, it's very difficult to decide whom to support. There is no doubt that the 2007 Surge in Iraq played a role in the eventually instability in Syria. The AL Qaeda Sunni/Shia radical groups are made of many different ideologies, often of which have more to do with Mafia style tactics as opposed to anything associated with True Islam.

For instance the Mahdi(Shia) army in Iraq was attempting to take over Iraq up until 2008, its leader IMO is attempting to basically, for lack of a better term, become rich. Though many reports of the Mahdi militias existence continue to arise.

I think what the support itself from Western nations comes down to which group can benefit Western nations the most, as harsh as this sounds this is most likely the case.

You are right

Well, at least this is cheerful

I lol'd.

Can you go back to whatever subforum you came from? You're annoying.