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Old 08-04-2012, 10:43 PM   #46
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Re: What happended to the Occupy Movement?

tl;dr maybe deserves a thread of its own?
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:47 PM   #47
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It's "tl;dr" for anti-intellectual phillistines living their unexamined lives in quiet desperation, yes.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:51 PM   #48
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Because philistines really exist in the 21st century and don't read books evarrrrrrrr
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:53 PM   #49
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I'm sorry, but seriously trying to get someone to consider dismissing the virtue of the work ethic is gonna have to require more than a few paragraphs. I didn't even copy the whole essay.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:58 PM   #50
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who is served by saying the occupy movement failed or no longer exists?
Me and my personal need to seek the truth. I guess I'm just a selfish jerk like that.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:59 PM   #51
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I scanned it. I saw the word "dyspepsia".
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:56 AM   #52
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Not reading all that. Someone be the mine canary and Clifff's that ****.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:58 AM   #53
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Cliffs:
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:01 AM   #54
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The first kind of work, already displaced, will become increasingly displaced as technology advances and greater efficiencies in production are achieved.

100 years from now 30% unemployment will be full employment imo.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:06 AM   #55
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And those 30% will be villified as lazy no good drug abusers with no ambition. "Look at all the free **** they are getting! Lucky duckies, gwwwwaaaarrrrrggggggwwwwrrr!!!"
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only a foolish asceticism, usually vicarious, makes us continue to insist on work in excessive quantities now that the need no longer exists.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:23 AM   #57
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And those 30% will be villified as lazy no good drug abusers with no ambition. "Look at all the free **** they are getting! Lucky duckies, gwwwwaaaarrrrrggggggwwwwrrr!!!"
My grandfather was a postman in the 60s/70s in poor, rural town in Iowa. He made $55/week and delivered welfare checks to much of the town worth $50/week. Apparently there were these guys that were an early form of trolls that would taunt grandpa everyweek about how they got paid by the same company, about how he had to sweat his balls off everyday, etc. Used to infuriate him to the point where he'd have to come home everynight and beat the **** out of his kids.

Lazy 30%ers
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:28 AM   #58
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Academic institutions, therefore, useful as they are, are not adequate guardians of the interests of civilization in a world where everyone outside their walls is too busy for unutilitarian pursuits.
Equating unutilitarian pursuits (which, one might argue, confer more cultural value than utilitarian ones) with frivolity and laziness casts a black mark on our society. If anything, they are the only ones which matter-- the ones we don't have time for. See, e.g., the public (non)response to important academic studies in the sciences.

The example in the essay of the writer resigned to pump out pulp novels to make his monthly nut in lieu of less "utilitarian" yet more enjoyable and artistic pursuits is also apt.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:34 AM   #59
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My grandfather was a postman in the 60s/70s in poor, rural town in Iowa. He made $55/week and delivered welfare checks to much of the town worth $50/week. Apparently there were these guys that were an early form of trolls that would taunt grandpa everyweek about how they got paid by the same company, about how he had to sweat his balls off everyday, etc. Used to infuriate him to the point where he'd have to come home everynight and beat the **** out of his kids.

Lazy 30%ers
csb, but I don't think you understand the point of the essay. If "hard work" (defined as the inefficient labor prescribed by society in the form of the 40 or 50 hour work week) was not exalted by the paymasters such that actual workers' critiques of it were not derided as lazy musings, but actually engaged with, then we could strive to implement a logical structure that recognized the value of grandfather and every other toiler's ability to enjoy the fruits of his labors. The taunts of others would not have mattered to him had he not been worked into the ground.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:35 AM   #60
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My grandfather was a postman in the 60s/70s in poor, rural town in Iowa. He made $55/week and delivered welfare checks to much of the town worth $50/week. Apparently there were these guys that were an early form of trolls that would taunt grandpa everyweek about how they got paid by the same company, about how he had to sweat his balls off everyday, etc. Used to infuriate him to the point where he'd have to come home everynight and beat the **** out of his kids.

Lazy 30%ers



This says a lot more about about the development of your world view than it does about my propaganda. Imgaine the massive influence that had upon his children, who in turn had massive influence upon you.
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