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Old 06-04-2012, 06:19 AM   #16
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Re: We need to make it profitable for individuals to have freedom

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Anarchism translates to "without rulers" correct?

You may think that politican X is better than politican Y and Z, but that doesn't change the fact that politicans XYZ are all part of a system where the few rule the many. All of this is ignoring the fact that Ron Paul wouldn't dismantly the system from the inside, he would delegate power to state governments. I conceed that this is much more favorable (due to decentralization), however favorable =! dismantling the system. I have no doubt that Dr. Paul is sincere however it must be noted that any good he does would ultimately be legitimizing the system.

Its also plausible to state that by supporting politican X, you are actually empowering the existing system, by taking a part in it, rather than outright rejecting it.

You can argue the decentralization of power line all you want but so long as power is still in the equation; there is going to be a hierarchy with a monopoly on force (the exact opposite of what Anarchism is).

I believe that all of this is relevant to the thread topic (as you are talking about the "right people" and this is obviously subjective to your school of thought).

To address the OP in an objective way; I believe that the "right person" is dependent on the masses eduating themselves, realizing their collective power and mobilizing in a manner that strikes fear into oppresive forces.



You're right, Ron Paul wouldn't be able to affect as great a change as I would like. That's ok though, and me supporting Ron Paul doesn't strengthen the system and legitimize it. If Ron Paul were elected, he would have some influence though. The war on drugs would probably scale down, as would warfare, and government spending. All of these are appealing, and would reduce the negative effects government has, instead of increasing.

What is important for Anarchists is to be realistic. We are not going to get rid of the government. It's just not going to happen in our lifetime. Therefor, we must make government have the least negative effect on us as possible, and that means influencing its course, and that means taking part in the system.

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Old 06-04-2012, 06:25 AM   #17
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:39 AM   #18
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I'm rather confused. Can we have a new forum rule requiring LirvA to list his current level of highness in a vague homeland security format like this


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What are some non violent ways?
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education leading to ostracism.

there are 145 million people being educated by the state right now. good luck competing with that.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:52 AM   #22
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I don't think tar & feathers are violent.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:55 AM   #23
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I know you don't, but not everyone lives in water and can just wash it off like it's nothing.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:58 AM   #25
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Obviously money. As pointed out, depending on your definition of the right thing, the "right thing" is done all the time on behalf of a special interest that used a little fiat influence.

Money is impractical for individuals though seeking freedom, privacy, and prosperity, isn't it?. The average individual doesn't have thousands of dollars they can toss to the government to get more freedom, privacy, and prosperity.
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The democratic selection and recall of elected officials.
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I read that newsletters can be a pretty sweet gig.
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