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But but but, what choice do the police have when someone disrespects them and ignores their authority except to use a bit of the old ultra violence?

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04-10-2017 , 07:24 PM

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awval999

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United is a bunch of cheap ass pussies.

Keep increasing the VDB (voluntarily denied boarding) offer. Eventually someone is gonna bite.

04-10-2017 , 07:26 PM

#128

awval999

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This dude is not Rosa Parks however.

Some entitled ******* doctor that doesn't think he needs to listen to anyone (#notalldoctors).

Well at least we know the outcome when an ******* doctor meets an ******* police officer on a plane.

Policeman 1 : Doctor 0

04-10-2017 , 07:29 PM

#129

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Quote:

Originally Posted by awval999

United is a bunch of cheap ass pussies.

Keep increasing the VDB (voluntarily denied boarding) offer. Eventually someone is gonna bite.

Yeah apparently they never went above a 800 dollar voucher. I mean jesus christ, just offer people 500 cash money and a hotel and someone will bite.

04-10-2017 , 07:29 PM

#130

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Odds the United guy was Dr. Ikes?

0% - he never yelled walk it back.

04-10-2017 , 07:32 PM

#131

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Originally Posted by awval999

Now this take is not surprising. Sometimes an entitled punk needs to be taken out on a stretcher like in the good old days, right?

This is why you voted for Trump.

04-10-2017 , 07:32 PM

#132

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Quote:

Originally Posted by awval999

This dude is not Rosa Parks however.

Some entitled ******* doctor that doesn't think he needs to listen to anyone (#notalldoctors).

Well at least we know the outcome when an ******* doctor meets an ******* police officer on a plane.

Policeman 1 : Doctor 0

Unless that was an off duty police officer working security, no we don't.

You know **** is bad when CPD was trying to distinguish itself as a different entity than O'Hares security

04-10-2017 , 07:39 PM

#133

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Yeah apparently they never went above a 800 dollar voucher. I mean jesus christ, just offer people 500 cash money and a hotel and someone will bite.

I guarantee this is the result of United either taking VDB out of someone's checks or a dumb handbook capping offers at $800

04-10-2017 , 07:45 PM

#134

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

That's a good point, the cops should have been all "are you serious with this? Find a better way to fix this" when the airline told them to remove the guy from the plane.

what does it tell you about yourself that you believe what happened to be a better outcome than the one you describe above?

04-10-2017 , 07:45 PM

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04-10-2017 , 08:10 PM

#136

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Originally Posted by markksman

Yeah in the majority of cases that's how it works. Once in a while they will board a loaded plane to get people to accept payment to leave. Dragging people off so an airline employee can fly is the worst.

Chicago to St Louis is a 2.5 hour drive so if the idiots at united could not find another flight crew closer they literally could have driven to Louisville. Or united could have arranged for alternative flights on other airlines or chartered a private jet or a fricking helicopter. All of these things should have been trivial for a major airline to execute.

Of course they could just have backup crews in Louisville or near Louisville or in any other city with flights directly or near Louisville. In a decision tree what Jnited chose would not make the page at all because it is that stupid.

They suspended the officer who dragged the guy off. They should fire every single manager who had any hand in this decision or who was aware of it.

Chicago to St. Louis is more like 4.5 hours.

04-10-2017 , 08:16 PM

#137

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Chicago to St. Louis is more like 4.5 hours.

If you drive like an old fart. 2.5hr has to be like 100 mph tho lol.

04-10-2017 , 08:16 PM

#138

SenorKeeed

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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

what does it tell you about yourself that you believe what happened to be a better outcome than the one you describe above?

Not much since you appear to have hallucinated that I think that

04-10-2017 , 08:17 PM

#139

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Sorry yeah it's Louisville and yes ah 4.5 hours I looked it up earlier and it was 299 miles so I mashed the two together by mistake.

Still the crew had a scheduled flight the next day so this weird stance by united is so unjustifiable if that was their goal.

If this kind of maneuvering was so important they would have seats reserved for non revenue employees on every flight instead of thinking its better to totally mess up paying customers.

04-10-2017 , 08:18 PM

#140

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There are no brakes on the fascism train. These ****ers will cheer it on from the highest rooftops.

04-10-2017 , 08:35 PM

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Apparently this defender of the First Amendment is an editor at a news station in Chicago.

04-10-2017 , 08:39 PM

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He's a real Cuckleberry Finn.

04-10-2017 , 08:40 PM

#143

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LDO article about the United incident. http://www.latimes.com/business/laza...411-story.html

Quote:

The experts I spoke with said the airline made two key mistakes:

First, it didn’t remedy the overbooking while passengers were still in the gate, before they’d boarded the aircraft.

Second, it allowed the situation to escalate out of the airline’s control by calling in the cops, who had no stake in making United look friendly. Their sole task was to get the guy off the plane, using brute force if necessary.

“This is wrong on so many dimensions of what we know about customer service,” said Mary Gilly, a marketing professor at UC Irvine. “You don’t look for ‘volunteers’ after passengers have already boarded the flight.”

Worse, the flight reportedly was overbooked because United needed the seats for its own employees, who had to fly elsewhere for different shifts.

“They’re saying company employees were a priority over a paying customer,” said Michigan State’s McCall. “Why would anybody do that?”

Paul Fombelle, an associate professor of marketing at Northeastern University, said that “the right way to handle a situation like that is not to get in a situation like that.”

“Once the guy has sat down, the airline has to honor that,” he said. “To pull him off is heartbreaking.”

04-10-2017 , 08:45 PM

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The customer service was obviously horrible, but everyone viewing it from that angle is ****ed up. Did you all go to business school? Ok, a mistake was made. Mistakes happen. No one should have to bring out the handbook from the training seminar on Total Customer Satisfaction in order to act like a god damned human being.

04-10-2017 , 08:47 PM

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I'm going to start customer service seminars.

Lesson one: Act like a god damned human being.

Thanks for coming.

04-10-2017 , 08:49 PM

#146

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I'm going to do small govt seminars.

Lesson one: just follow the rules and nobody gets hurt.

Spoiler:

04-10-2017 , 08:59 PM

#147

Loki

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Originally Posted by Jbrochu

0% - he never yelled walk it back.

Someone give this man a prize

04-10-2017 , 09:12 PM

#148

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Can your landlord have you dragged out of your house? If you've been evicted, then sure.

The amount of force exhibited seems exactly what I would imagine if someone is being dragged off an airplane against his will.

Grunching but lol you just took an L right here.

04-10-2017 , 09:18 PM

#149

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Name checks out.

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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master

Buried fine print under Rule 25 speaks of "denying boarding", but dude already boarded:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...iage.aspx#sec5

United filed a FALSE POLICE COMPLAINT and idiot officer engaged in a FALSE ARREST.

Lol, at far right extremists WhatAboutDan and SenorTroll shilling for the corporate powers that be to have the right to knock out passengers and drag them off planes when even their own lawyers are not that presumptuous. Strange that our comrade WhatAboutDan spent all his time railing against the "corporatist Democrats" only to take this position. Almost like he reflexively argues against whatever those dang liberals are up to on any given day.

04-10-2017 , 09:19 PM

#150

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Had read the articles and was thinking that it's really screwed up, but worse things happen. Then watched the videos and holy **** that's insane they literally dragged him down the aisle by his arms with his shirt falling off after tackling him down, what the hell???

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