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Old 05-29-2014, 03:53 PM   #176
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Re: UK Politarding Thread

Sharara law make the news over there? Or Peter Robinson defending 'satanic Islam'?
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:08 PM   #177
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Sharara law make the news over there? Or Peter Robinson defending 'satanic Islam'?
Sharia law is only a talking point for the particularly stupid. I suspect housing and employment legislation (specifically, minimum wage and working hours) are the main concerns of the majority of UKIP voters, they just don't all necessarily realise this so they end up articulating their thoughts into vague concerns about European red tape and immigrants taking all the low paid jobs and cheap houses.
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:23 PM   #178
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I'm talking about one specific incident here (NI) where we have a Pastor/preacher ranting about 'Sharara law, satanic Islam!' and the First minister not only defending him but attending his sermons.

Didn't think you'd have anyone but idiots bringing up the rise of Sharia law as a talking point across the water.

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Old 05-30-2014, 07:37 AM   #179
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Britain even has sharia courts
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:49 AM   #180
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Sharia law/courts isn't the issue, Peter Robinson (equivalent to David Cameron) speaking out in support of and attending the sermons of the 80 year old bigot pastor is the problem.

Surprised it didn't make the news over there.

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Old 06-19-2014, 02:55 PM   #181
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This pre-supposes they actually care about the subject and are not just milking an opportunity.
Oh come on. You really think Hannan and Farage are anti-EU for the money? LOL
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:00 PM   #182
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Hannan is meaningless. ~99% of Brits have no idea who he is, rightly so.

Farage is probably just in it for the power, not the money. Though he is definitely fine with exploiting his expenses for personal gain.
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:27 PM   #183
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People who vote UKIP aren't as anti Europe as you think.

It's pretty much a question of "I'm sick of hearing foreign accents when I go to the shops"

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/02/24/...s-its-support/
Interesting that being a Guardian reader is the single biggest predictor of whether you will not vote UKIP - more so than being fairly-to-very left wing, voted Labour in 2010 or black/Asian.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:13 AM   #184
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Instead of promoting a secular state education system, with a shared educational framework that would ensure that all children are taught to a common standard, the government has encouraged different minority communities to define their notion of education and to devise their own curriculum. And when it goes disastrously wrong, as in Birmingham, rather than question its own policies, it blames the community.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:01 PM   #185
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It's hard to disagree with the author's view of the issues here.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:38 AM   #186
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Interesting results from a recent BES poll:

The latest BES study also found that of those people intending to vote UKIP at GE2015, 44% voted CON in 2010, 17% voted LD, 11% voted LAB. 9% voted UKIP and 11% didn’t vote. This is in line with other polling that we’ve seen.

Quite scary that 17% voted LD, I knew there was some movement between the two parties but didn't think it was to that extent.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:28 AM   #187
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Questions to the Prime Minister 6/25/2014



Thought Milliband got the better of him at the very beginning. Then Cameron came back pretty strong and he clearly got Milli visibly angry. Overall, I feel Cameron just comes better prepared to PMQ's. Milliband's not a bad debater and can sometimes really stick it to him but I think it's clear Cameron is the better debater.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:54 PM   #188
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It is just called PMQs and they mean nothing whatsoever. In case you thought otherwise.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:03 PM   #189
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You have one of the greatest showcases of Democracy in the world and you thinks it means nothing?! What a shame.

People in other countries wish and pray they could hold their leaders accountable as they do in Britain week in and week out. How sad that Phill can't even appreciate how his Majesty's government protects his rights and holds itself accountable to the people.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:31 PM   #190
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Lol, its a pantomime. We hate how they act and most couldn't care less about the back and forth of rehearsed bull**** lines on largely predictable topics.

No one is held to account. Not even close. Everyone who lived through the Bliar government saw it week in week out as meaningless kabuki theatre.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:48 PM   #191
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man,, its awesome, I dont get the hate.. yeah, its rehearesed a little, yeah its prepared, he's th eleader of one of the most powerful countries in the world, he cant just go out there and wing it ffs... I just love the banter, the MPs booing and aweing.... its grade A poltical theater..
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:52 PM   #192
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I jsut think its badass that the prime Minister and his most powerful opponent basically have a debate every single week. That happens like 3 times every four years over here.. Its just great for both of them to catch each other in their BS... and have the whole House of Commons cheer and jeer when it happens.. literally nothing like that happens over here in the US.CSPAN Is boring as ****...
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:24 AM   #193
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Re: UK Politarding Thread

Whilst I agree with some of what Phil says on this, we're way better off politically with pmq's than we would be without it imo.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:37 PM   #194
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At 11 minuntes in.

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The Prime Minister: The right hon. Gentleman still has to defend the man who presided over the Mid Staffs disgrace, where standards of patient care were so bad that patients were drinking out of dirty vases because of standards in Labour’s NHS. The point is this: the reason we have been able to cut bureaucracy and the reason we have been able to put more money into the NHS is that we have taken difficult decisions, including having a 1% pay cap in the NHS. Of course, Labour said it would support that, but this week it has decided that it will back strikes instead.

I have here the Labour briefing on strikes, which says, “Do we support strikes? No. Will we condemn strikes? No.”

There we have it: that is his leadership summed up in one go.

Have the Opposition got a plan for the NHS?
Conservative MPs: No.

Have they got a plan for our economy?
Conservative MPs: No.

Is he remotely up to the job?
Conservative MPs: No.


These are the best moments IMO in PMQs when Cameron just owns Milliband. If he can do this week in and week out, I don't see how Milliband ever gets the top job.

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Old 07-10-2014, 04:45 PM   #195
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Never really watch PM Question Time but I think there was one recently where Cameron referred to Milliband and Balls as a pair of muppets

I read Blair's biography a while back and he admitted to finding PM Question time to be a very stressful experience.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:10 PM   #196
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Lol, no-one expects Miliband to become PM. The biggest question is whether they ditch him before the next general election or wait until afterwards.
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Lol, no-one expects Miliband to become PM. The biggest question is whether they ditch him before the next general election or wait until afterwards.
Who's in the running to take over Labor? I haven't heard anything on that front. I know the Lib Dems aren't happy with Clegg due to the shellacking Farage gave him.

As it stands right now, I see the Tories winning but needing to form a coalition with UKIP to form a government.
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Who's in the running to take over Labor? I haven't heard anything on that front. I know the Lib Dems aren't happy with Clegg due to the shellacking Farage gave him.

As it stands right now, I see the Tories winning but needing to form a coalition with UKIP to form a government.
Nobody is in the frame to replace Ed before the next GE, the Lib Dems will stick with Clegg, and UKIP won't win enough seats to form a meaningful coalition. Happy to put my money where my mouth is on all three.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:23 PM   #199
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Who's in the running to take over Labor? I haven't heard anything on that front. I know the Lib Dems aren't happy with Clegg due to the shellacking Farage gave him.

As it stands right now, I see the Tories winning but needing to form a coalition with UKIP to form a government.
Hahaha. UKIP probably won't win a single seat.

Balls is the front runner for Labour leader and he is the guy if they want to go lefter and hug the unions harder assuming wrongly is logical opposition platform to the Conservatives.

**** knows who else is a front runner, they aren't awash with famous powerful potential leaders. Miliband brother is probably the favoured centrist right now I would speculate without researching it.

Clegg is ironically the most powerful lib dem leader they have had but he is going to lead the party off a cliff because they were always the opposition party with dumb policies and could never survive actual politics with power.

Fwiw Clegg did well in those debates, debating Europe is never going be a good idea which is why it dumb he did it, especially second debate on tv.

Last I looked a Conservative led coalition government with a few less lib dems was the likely outcome in the next general.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:35 PM   #200
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David Miliband is gone from Parliament and almost certainly from politics altogether. There's... Yvette Cooper, I guess? People like Tristram Hunt and Chuka Umunna might stand, though I doubt the PLP likes the idea of either of them as leader any more than I do.

Most polls have Labour ~5 points ahead atm, and the Tories need to win by at least that amount to gain a majority; one of the big betting pundits is predicting Con most votes/Lab most seats.

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