It's amusing seeing those on the left complaining at the minority government they effectively voted for.

It's also amusing that the complaints are that this government is weak heading into the "most important negotiations of our generation", when they voted for the guy that ignored Brexit throughout the campaign.

They have only one setting on the rage o meter, 10.

Get out of bed raging lol.

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Nothing is ever their fault, supporters fall for it every time especially if they said it was SF/Gerry's to blame.

I figured lefties would somehow be responsible for the tories **** ups.

The constitutional position in a hung parliament is that the party in power gets first opportunity to form a government, if they can't command a majority (including agreements with other parties) and no one else can, there is another election.

The Tories have lied about the confidence and supply agreement with the DUP, probably lied to the Queen as well.

Has any other "government" gone forward with a Queens speech without knowing if it will be voted through or not?

The question is more, what did they think was going to happen?

What's up with the queen giving her brexit speech in EU colors? Probably just coincidence/random, but knowing nothing about the traditional colors/dresses it's slightly amusing.

A strong and stable best deal for britain negotiated by the best and brightest who could sell coal to newcastle. Not some fumbling mess negotiated by people who can't sell a tory government to unionists. We at least tried to get rid of these incompetent losers, you voted for them.

What happens now? Vote asap?

Never bothered watching before.

It was never going to happen though, even with the following wind of a horrendous campaign it wasn't close to a Labour victory, no one even predicted it being as close as it was.

We've also got no idea how euro sceptic Corbyn would deal with Brexit, apart from guaranteeing citizenship for those already here. It's easy to criticise from the other side though - as he loves to do.

next week. zzzz

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girl with the high royal duty of holding a woolly hat on the end of a stick was quite alright

What do you think Labour supporters should have done? Not voted or voted for someone with an even smaller chance to get elected in order to ensure the Tories had a workable majority to do Brexit?

Didn't know there was any importance placed on the jewels.

Minding the crown a handy number all the same.

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Ta BAIDS.

I don't think anyone should be an "x party" supporter, I think people should vote based on which party in their view is best placed to serve our best interests. This isn't football.

If Brexit is the key issue, then they should have voted based on who they thought was best placed to deliver a successful one.

Peston again

Making sure the tories didn't have a mandate for more austerity was the key issue. It's just funny that their one major selling point in the GE (their top negotiating skill re brexit) has come so spectacularly unstuck before they're even out of the starting gate.

Grammar schools,fox hunting, end to the triple lock all jettisoned.

Skinner being Skinner

Yep, one of new labour's finest policies. Not 'selling off' public assets as such, rather here's our assets and we'll pay you for the privilege of not having to manage them ourselves. Efficient.

Pollsters generally found the economy rather than brexit as the most important topic.

Do you think people should be members of a political party?

Yeah, cos the economy and Brexit are separate issues

Fine if someone believes other issues are more important than Brexit, but then don't moan that the issue they prioritised above Brexit has put Brexit in jeopardy.

Happy for people to be members of a political party (someone has to be I guess), but I object to stuff like, "I'm a diehard x". Parties change, the landscape changes, and blind support of a party is naive. If you're that way inclined, you should also be prepared to discuss inconsistencies between your view and the party's.

Clearly brexit has economic considerations but they were polled separately. Hence the pollsters finding the economy a higher priority.

I left the Labour Party under duress about 27 years ago, I'm alright discussing inconsistencies between my view and the parties. However while parties do change there is generally some semblance of ideological or political commitments that continue. Occasionally these commitments will be challenged such as privatisation in public services under Blair but parties generally have views about what a good society should look like and people will often maintain commitments to those parties whose vision most resembles their own.

No idea, neither probably. My point was that you would be preferring a Labour govt, which is good ofc.
They'll stumble on to a point in various degrees of crisis until the fan is smeared with excrement. Interesting times, does anybody have any idea at all what the landscape will be in even 6 months?

I think that's fine under normal circumstances, but the irreversible decision the electorate selected has made these non normal circumstances.

Personally I saw Brexit as the number one issue by far, and the odds are now significantly shorter that it'll be a complete **** up. I can respect the opinion of those that put other issues first, but then imo they've given up the right to moan that it looks like Brexit will be a complete **** up.

The decision is reversible.

What do you think would have lengthened the odds that Brexit was a complete **** up? It seems you think had May had a stronger majority and strengthened her position domestically that would translate to her position wrt Brexit negotiations being stronger and I'm not sure why.

My preference would be for a Labour minority government, so parliament can hold Corbyn's feet to the fire over some of their more barmy policies.

A Labour majority would be my least favourable option, unless of course they wrote off existing student loans, in which case I'd be all for it.