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04-22-2017 , 08:06 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ireland-brexit

May doesn't gaf about the country coming together.

Like with Scotland, she'll be the biggest loser in the end as a border poll is coming.
04-22-2017 , 09:30 AM
Oh goody another Guardian article whining about Brexit, quel surprise.

Quote:
Amid all the political turmoil at both local and national level, all we know for sure is that Northern Ireland does not want Brexit. Yet Brexit is being forced upon it – by a Westminster government with no vested interest in its future.
In the same way as it's being 'forced' on Londoners who overall voted to remain, and outnumber the Northern Irish by about 5:1.

NI represents under 3% of the UK population, and with 18 MP's they have almost exactly the representation they deserve. They certainly get way more attention than they warrant.
04-22-2017 , 11:20 AM
Incredible simplistic view Gin.
Northern Ireland shares a border and has many cross border cooperative arrangements with an EU country. London does not.
04-22-2017 , 11:49 AM
So what? Loads of City jobs may depend on banks' ability / inability to passport after Brexit, the effects on employment could be quite dramatic.

45% of my business' internet sales are to Europe, you think I like it?

Brexit raises issues for all of us, I didn't vote for it and I don't much like it. But the Guardian article is just yet more whining, get over it already, we're leaving.

What really annoyed me is that it seemed to imply that NI's complete inability to run their own politics for more than ten ****ing minutes at a time should make them some kind of special case. NI already gets way more autonomy and attention than it deserves due to their propensity for blowing **** up.
04-22-2017 , 01:16 PM
https://www.publications.parliament....om/76/7607.htm

EU have played a huge part in financing all sort of programmes here, they are also recognised as a vital partner in the peace process.

Lol if you think anywhere else in the UK compares to our ****ty situation, mostly of previous British governments making btw.

Little tip for you g+t....Go check out Brian Nelson and Freddie Scappatici, go find out who was really running the dirty war here and blowing **** up.

And yes it's being forced on most of the country with no input from anyone but tory bastards!

Last edited by unwantedguest; 04-22-2017 at 01:23 PM.
04-22-2017 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
So what? Loads of City jobs may depend on banks' ability / inability to passport after Brexit, the effects on employment could be quite dramatic.

45% of my business' internet sales are to Europe, you think I like it?

Brexit raises issues for all of us, I didn't vote for it and I don't much like it. But the Guardian article is just yet more whining, get over it already, we're leaving.

What really annoyed me is that it seemed to imply that NI's complete inability to run their own politics for more than ten ****ing minutes at a time should make them some kind of special case. NI already gets way more autonomy and attention than it deserves due to their propensity for blowing **** up.
Another great insight
04-22-2017 , 01:34 PM
Anyone who doesnlt take into account the extraordinarily difficult historic and contemporary circumstances in Northern Ireland is an idiot.

Stakeknife's story is a very interesting one.

Double Agent
04-22-2017 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Anyone who doesnlt take into account the extraordinarily difficult historic and contemporary circumstances in Northern Ireland is an idiot.

Stakeknife's story is a very interesting one.

Double Agent
And the previous head of the same unit was John Joe Magee, also thought to be a British agent.

Loyalists all over the country had access to British army files on suspected Republicans, many were used to kill innocent catholics. All the actions of lone soldiers though, definitely nothing deeper going on.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 04-22-2017 at 01:52 PM. Reason: Recent bbc panorama on SK def worth watching.
04-22-2017 , 03:23 PM
The real surprise at this statement from Nick Robinson is that he actually said something reasonably coherent:

“No-one should be surprised that @jeremycorbyn is running v the "Establishment" & is long on passion & short on details. Story of his life,"

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bb...-a3519281.html

BBC still not biased though.
04-22-2017 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj
The real surprise at this statement from Nick Robinson is that he actually said something reasonably coherent:

“No-one should be surprised that @jeremycorbyn is running v the "Establishment" & is long on passion & short on details. Story of his life,"

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bb...-a3519281.html

BBC still not biased though.
All the BBC pundits whose affiliation is known that any one can name are Tories.

The "left-wing bias" always seem to come from shadowy individuals working within the organization. You'd almost suspect they didn't exist....
04-22-2017 , 06:46 PM
As an outsider it seems to me Corbyn has to shake up things a bit.

If I were him I would move further to the far left on a couple of issues but at the same time I would offer the lib dems an electionary pact. Some crazy **** that makes the tories really confused.
04-22-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by valenzuela
As an outsider it seems to me Corbyn has to shake up things a bit.

If I were him I would move further to the far left on a couple of issues but at the same time I would offer the lib dems an electionary pact. Some crazy **** that makes the tories really confused.
Are you really in Venezuela? If so, how is life there?
04-22-2017 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Are you really in Venezuela? If so, how is life there?
Valenzuela is a surname not the country Venezuela Im from Chile but when I was a kid lived in England for a few years so I always follow what is going on there.
04-22-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by valenzuela
Valenzuela is a surname not the country Venezuela Im from Chile but when I was a kid lived in England for a few years so I always follow what is going on there.
My reading comprehension fails after 10 hours of 'socialising'

I'm not in England btw
04-22-2017 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
My reading comprehension fails after 10 hours of 'socialising'

I'm not in England btw
I know, you are scottish. I remember the Scotland referendum thread. I meant England because I understand it more than what is going on Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland where they have kinda their own dynamic going on.
04-23-2017 , 04:29 AM
I hope you enjoyed your time here. I guess it can't have been too bad if you still follow UK events.

How's life in Chile? And is Sanchez going to stay? 😀
04-23-2017 , 05:33 AM
Lib Dems rule out coalition with either of the other two parties.

Are going to war as the anti Brexit party.

http://www.libdems.org.uk/coalition

Can see the thinking, Lib Dems have always struggled to define themselves as anything other than the party you vote for when you have finally got sick of voting for the main party who has been in power for X terms.

Need to think about how it plays in voting terms.
04-23-2017 , 06:30 AM
Curse having to link to the Sunday express, can't find it anywhere else:

https://www.express.co.uk/videos/get.../5403107396001

Poll of 40 000 'this morning' viewers, 'who would you prefer to be PM?'

May - 24%
Corbyn - 61%

No time for any polls personally but I know some people base their entire view on them. So there you have it, next PM is Jeremy.
04-23-2017 , 06:44 AM
04-23-2017 , 01:43 PM
UKIP want to ban veils/burqas

Definetly not a racist party.

Shame on you who voted for them.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 04-23-2017 at 01:43 PM. Reason: Big hats are OK.
04-23-2017 , 01:45 PM
Yet another Corbyn interview followed by a clarification statement from the party.
04-23-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Lib Dems rule out coalition with either of the other two parties.

Are going to war as the anti Brexit party.

http://www.libdems.org.uk/coalition

Can see the thinking, Lib Dems have always struggled to define themselves as anything other than the party you vote for when you have finally got sick of voting for the main party who has been in power for X terms.

Need to think about how it plays in voting terms.
Jesus, just drop it. No one cares.
04-23-2017 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Yet another Corbyn interview followed by a clarification statement from the party.
Only the truly blind can't see this as yet another set up. The BBC's Andrew Marr asks a loaded, hypothetical question which is only relevant in the event of a pending nuclear holocaust, which then becomes the top headline on the... yes, BBC news. Then some military chief comes on talking s*** about the only candidate who actually stands a chance of making the country SAFER by pursuing peaceful agreements and undoing the damage caused by successive Tory and New Labour Governments as they cling to the US President's arse cheeks.

Absolute BS, of course they're going to clarify, there is an ongoing debate inside Labour over nuclear weapons, which is relevant to contemporary global politics. But instead let's just have a tribalist finger pointing exercise posing a pointless question which nobody really understands the context of (which would be in the event of nuclear bombs going off all over the world so it really wouldn't matter what the answer is since we'd all be dead.)
04-23-2017 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj
Only the truly blind can't see this as yet another set up. The BBC's Andrew Marr asks a loaded, hypothetical question which is only relevant in the event of a pending nuclear holocaust, which then becomes the top headline on the... yes, BBC news. Then some military chief comes on talking s*** about the only candidate who actually stands a chance of making the country SAFER by pursuing peaceful agreements and undoing the damage caused by successive Tory and New Labour Governments as they cling to the US President's arse cheeks.

Absolute BS, of course they're going to clarify, there is an ongoing debate inside Labour over nuclear weapons, which is relevant to contemporary global politics. But instead let's just have a tribalist finger pointing exercise posing a pointless question which nobody really understands the context of (which would be in the event of nuclear bombs going off all over the world so it really wouldn't matter what the answer is since we'd all be dead.)
The contortions you have to go through in your blind defence of Corbyn are almost painful to read. Poor Jeremy, nothing's ever his fault
04-23-2017 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
UKIP want to ban veils/burqas

Definetly not a racist party.

Shame on you who voted for them.
So UKIP are aligning with the ****asses in the French and German mainstream political parties.

You do realise the EU are basically endorsing this clearly racist behaviour, right? And have been doing so for years.

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