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03-03-2017 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
There's a touch of social justice warrior about it for sure.

i wonder though, are you in any way concerned about UK citizens overseas and their limbo?

If you are, id read you as more genuine and much less of the Alexdb description.
I am a UK citizen in the EU this was central to the discussion we had on this yesterday. Now admittedly I am in Ireland and as Marty points out there are good reasons to believe that this will be resolved but my status post brexit is currently undetermined.

I would be delighted if other EU member states took positions with regard to UK citizens in their jurisdictions, this idea that I only care about EU citizens in the UK not UK citizens in the EU is ridiculous.
03-03-2017 , 08:40 AM
Then we're more aligned than unaligned
03-03-2017 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter

i wonder though, are you in any way concerned about UK citizens overseas and their limbo?
Why should any one be concerned about a bunch of greedy tax-dodgers that don't live here.
The immigrants that came here chose this country, ex-patriates abandon it like rats on a sinking ship.

(I'm talking in Daily Mail here so it can be processed by the far right)
03-04-2017 , 04:23 AM
Oh, dear, you're a bit angry about life. Shame for you.
03-04-2017 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GBV
Why should any one be concerned about a bunch of greedy tax-dodgers that don't live here.
The immigrants that came here chose this country, ex-patriates abandon it like rats on a sinking ship.

(I'm talking in Daily Mail here so it can be processed by the far right)
He isn't concerned, just another talking point for him.

Ffs I'd bet he dgaf about UK citizens living in his own street nevermind another country.
03-04-2017 , 07:37 AM
the lack of self-awareness and lack of pot.kettle.black insight is some people is hilarious, right?
03-04-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
Oh, dear, you're a bit angry about life. Shame for you.
Bit slow on the uptake aren't you?
03-04-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
He isn't concerned, just another talking point for him.

Ffs I'd bet he dgaf about UK citizens living in his own street nevermind another country.
Yeah. These people all talk about protecting Britain but the only seem interested when it is protecting corporations, the queen, maybe the military (the "good" ones that don't make a fuss about being cannon fodder"). They seem to actively hate the rest of the population.
03-04-2017 , 02:10 PM
The UK has always been a tribal country, which has allowed TPTB to get away with things that in other countries brought revolution (or a strong threat of it).
03-04-2017 , 09:31 PM
If we were to take this thread as an example then you'd believe that no one has as much condescension for the working classes than those on the far left do.
03-04-2017 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
The UK has always been a tribal country, which has allowed TPTB to get away with things that in other countries brought revolution (or a strong threat of it).
history/british/empire_seapower/revolutionl

From above link:

No violent political revolution has occurred in Britain since the civil wars of 1642-51. Yet in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries virtually every other state in Europe has experienced at least one forcible overthrow of government and its replacement by another, from the French Revolution of 1789 to the Russian Revolution of 1917.

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You limey bastards need another violent revolution. Its been too long.
03-05-2017 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Husker
If we were to take this thread as an example then you'd believe that no one has as much condescension for the working classes than those on the far left do.
Indeed. I'm working class - born and raised on a council estate in south London, and these sort of wankstains understand nothing about working people. They are intellectual argument-chips to these people, nothing more.
03-05-2017 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
Indeed. I'm working class - born and raised on a council estate in south London, and these sort of wankstains understand nothing about working people. They are intellectual argument-chips to these people, nothing more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo
03-05-2017 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Husker
If we were to take this thread as an example then you'd believe that no one has as much condescension for the working classes than those on the far left do.
What are you blathering on about? No one had mentioned the working classes.
03-05-2017 , 07:20 AM
Ignoring the goalpost shift, Tomj posted a few far left policies that would do wonders for the working classes like nationalise everything and putting the workers in charge also there'd be subsidies up the arse for everyone.

Banning nuclear weapons - no more waste on trident.
Rent controls.
Mandatory living wage or universal basic income.
Anti war.
03-05-2017 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
Indeed. I'm working class - born and raised on a council estate in south London, and these sort of wankstains understand nothing about working people. They are intellectual argument-chips to these people, nothing more.
Lol at thinking this has any relevance whatsoever. Your ideas are horrible, working class Tory.
03-05-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
Ignoring the goalpost shift, Tomj posted a few far left policies that would do wonders for the working classes like nationalise everything and putting the workers in charge also there'd be subsidies up the arse for everyone.

Banning nuclear weapons - no more waste on trident.
Rent controls.
Mandatory living wage or universal basic income.
Anti war.
At the moment we have subsidies for the rich. You have implicity subsidy for the banks which mostly they keep the gains from, but they also pass it on to those rich enough to get on the property ladder. Plus a dozen other schemes (eg first-time buyer) which are essentially bank/property benefits.
Then you have quantative easing, where governments print money and hand it to the banks devaluing the pound in our pocket.

Ironically, despite all the talk of handouts, even if universal basic income becomes a thing it probably won't compete with the massive transference of taxpayer money from poor to rich, it would just redress some of the imbalance.
03-05-2017 , 06:31 PM
Jeremy Corbyn's tax return appears to omit leader's salary.

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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has published his tax return as part of a call for transparency from politicians.

But the return appears to omit around £37,000 he was entitled to as leader of the opposition.
Corbyn's tax return anomaly
03-05-2017 , 06:48 PM
How does he only make 78£ in interest having a salary of 100K?
03-05-2017 , 06:54 PM
Also I see the Tories are cutting housing benefit for 18-21 year olds.

As someone who had to leave home at 16 to live in tiny room whilst studying for my A levels, this is just **** behaviour that has no fiscal justification, any money saved is negligible, and for those like me who at a young age have an untenable domestic situation will probably mean homelessness, and not A levels and a degree and so on and on.

Shame.
03-06-2017 , 03:59 AM
It's another nail in the coffin of progressive values in the UK, and another step in the return to pre-WW2 standards of living and accommodation that the new hard Right clearly wants - less immigration, smaller welfare state, fewer rights for working people and students, but more profit for corporations and share holders.

WAAF
03-06-2017 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Jeremy Corbyn's tax return appears to omit leader's salary.



Corbyn's tax return anomaly
If you're going to link to an article you should at least read the article first before summarising.
What it actually says is that the 'opposition leader' element is included in pensions and benefits. There is no anomaly. Case closed. The actual story here is the refusal of Conservative (and others) politicians such as Phillip Hammond to publish their accounts.

Of all the smear campaigns this is the least effective route to go down for Mandelson and the corporate media, for obvious reasons.
03-06-2017 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tomj
If you're going to link to an article you should at least read the article first before summarising.
What it actually says is that the 'opposition leader' element is included in pensions and benefits. There is no anomaly. Case closed. The actual story here is the refusal of Conservative (and others) politicians such as Phillip Hammond to publish their accounts.
You don't seem to realise that everything I posted was a quote from the BBC source. People can form their own opinions about it.
03-06-2017 , 08:43 AM
The headline is 'Labour confident Jeremy Corbyn paid right amount of tax'. The article clears up the discrepancy. It's a non issue. Hence why I am implying there is an alternative agenda, I mean it's f-ing obvious there's an alternative agenda - he did this to showcase his personal honesty and expose the dishonesty of others. This somehow gets twisted to become a question mark over his taxes, before the matter being cleared up. The issue is the refusal of Phillip Hammond to publish his.

Your own personal bias is exposed by your selective quotation.
03-06-2017 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tomj
The headline is 'Labour confident Jeremy Corbyn paid right amount of tax'. The article clears up the discrepancy. It's a non issue. Hence why I am implying there is an alternative agenda, I mean it's f-ing obvious there's an alternative agenda - he did this to showcase his personal honesty and expose the dishonesty of others. This somehow gets twisted to become a question mark over his taxes, before the matter being cleared up. The issue is the refusal of Phillip Hammond to publish his.

Your own personal bias is exposed by your selective quotation.
When I posted the link I c/p the headline exactly as it was - you should apologise for the accusation of bias - you realise that online web pages get updated throughout the day?

      
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