Actually ending myself here. You're on crack for sure.

No, I'm not at all saying that, whatever it means. Using the term 'socialism' is pretty much a waste of everyone's time. It's so vague and bastardised that you'll never say it to anyone who perceives it the same way you do.

Was actually going to ignore the rest of your post, but alas, I did not.

How can you have so little knowledge of the things you spend your day opining on?

Seriously, you need your head read.

Come back when you can cite a significant number of sources to back up this ridiculous notion that the referendum was anything to do with 'hating the English'.

You're a spaz.

LOL aye, default alternative attracting record numbers of new members, becoming the UK's 3rd biggest party by membership, and the new leader's tour of Scotland selling out the biggest venues they could find for her.

GTFO

None of that disputes what I said. The referendum summed the situation up well, Scots would rather be rules from London than have the full economy killing policies of the snp. They just don't like labour either.

Oh and selling out venues as the leader of the new leader of the country who almost no-one voted for should be super easy. It happens all the time in China and North Korea too

At times I've felt like stamping on your throat. Now I just find you funny.

Anyway, what's so great about the economy? It's ****ed. Any growth is just more debt - a continuation of the problems that caused the crash in 08. Nothing's changed since then. If you believe any of the rats in Westminster on anything economic, you're being fooled, which by the looks of things isn't so difficult.

Internationally celebrated as being extremely solid according to experts, ****ed according to you who has some weird anti capitalism attitude a century out of date. Who to listen to?

internationally celebrated hahahahahaha amazing. we all know who celebrates such a parasitical set up, well at least everyone except you. You'll believe anything the 'experts' say, regardless of their interests.

Who is it 'extremely solid' for? For me? For you? I doubt it. Try telling the ever increasing numbers relying on food banks to eat that the economy is solid when their wages can't even cover the bills.

Solid based on what? Based on the amazing figures branded by the gov and their cronies of people in work and all the new enterprise happening, which basically equates to the DWP pushing people into self employed status and average earnings of about £10K? Based on all the amazing new jobs that people have little choice in taking, yet don't earn enough to eat?

Based on consumer activity, which means more debt?

based on the drug and hooker markets?

It's extremely solid for the corporate thieves. Some commentators say no lessons have been learned since the recent crash, but that's bull****. Why would the thieves want to change anything when they can continue extracting all the dough? They know exactly what they're doing. The strange thing is, people like you think that's ok.

Capitalism might be ok if the labour force received its fair share, but anyway, the economy isn't capitalist. How can it be capitalist when it's controlled by the thieving banks? I suppose that's the upper tier though - I certainly don't have anything to do with that economy, except that it affects what's left to grab for myself. We all fight to capitalise on the scraps down here while the banks hoover up whatever they want. But you learned in some bull**** economics class that that's the best way to organise things, and you believed it - sad case of the norm.

Lol

It's not really "lol", Phil.

While the economy is humming along in certain parts of the US and in certain parts of the UK and Europe, it is not for everyone. The bulk of the gains are accruing to the top 1 or 10% of the population.

Though you could argue that the lowest income groups are actually provided for pretty well, and you'd be right, and I probably would argue that. I imagine that the lower income groups are provided for better in the UK and Europe than here in the US. They were when I was in Europe, which is what changed me to a liberal, tbh.

When you pick out the one point out of a score he made to agree with, yes it's lol.

So ****ing explain why the economy is solid then. You talk such utter pish man.

The 1 ****in % are on course to own over half the world's wealth and you think that's healthy. You're ****ed.

You don't understand what an economy is, you seem to have mistaken it for a society. An easy mistake for an ignorant person I guess.

The UK economy only looks good in a tallest midget contest where all the midgets are really short.

Diego, Phil, please. Let's not ruin this thread too.

That sounds about right. Also helps that the richer tend to migrate to those taller midgets.

If you look far enough you will see that anyone who can afford tax planning advise realises all their profits in BVI, GIB, jersey, IoM etc...

I'm a Tory through and through, but this behaviour seems to even be encouraged by the government at times.

As a result it's put a hell of a lot of pressure on people earning £50k - £250k who don't have enough money to afford tax planning advice, but at the same time are taxed at higher rates.

In addition CGT, IT etc... All planned correctly by people who can afford the advice, but incurred by people who can't.

I will still vote Tory, but honestly because there is nothing better.

Given that the left wing of the Tory party and the right wing of the Labour Party aren't that far apart, does anyone think that the two major parties might come to some kind of arrangement in order to keep UKIP and the other minority parties out of power in the event of a hung parliament?

I've heard this suggested a couple of times, but don't know if it's a realistic option.

Perhaps some sort of power sharing arrangement rather than a formal coalition?

What are the values you hold that make you so?

So, I mentioned jobs, new enterprise, consumer spending, black markets, which are all used by the gov as indicators of the strength of the economy.

Which of those are irrelevant in the subject of the economy?

Answer: you're totally ****ed.

Serious answer: really, give up.

In a different post you did.

You still haven't addressed any of the points raised. It looks to me like you don't have the technology to do so.

Why, in your opinion, is the economy 'solid'?

What good does the City do for (a) the economy, and (b) society?

Why is international capital good for the UK (or anywhere)?

I'd say the economy is ****ed for most people. Regardless of what the liars in Westminster try to tell us through the BBC, wages as a % of capital are at a half century low - people don't earn enough to live while the City continues to extract great hordes of wealth at the expense of the rest of society, with **** all benefit for the economy except giving the government bigger GDP figures to wank over. We have been duped into subscribing to the idea of international capital being a good thing for us, while all that it really means is certain players can operate above the state, outwith the realms of regulation.

But that's all good is it?

Irrelevant? Protest vote?

They've said they would join Labour in a coalition if certain conditions were met, mainly the scrapping of Trident, and now they have decided to fart in the face of parliamentary protocol and vote on English matters if they have a knock on effect for Scotland.

Personally I couldn't hate Labour any more than I do, and would prefer they were doomed in their current form. Hopefully people up here won't go back to being spastics again come polling day. I don't think they will, but we all saw how they were easily fooled in the referendum.

der markt is trading at between 25.5 and 31.5 u/o for total SNP seats.

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/...otal-seats-snp

I'm not on team irrelevant or anything, but I'm not buying 55 SNP seats.