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Not too familiar with Cruz but Clegg was great in the first debate and not so good afterwards.

Think something more Blair like but even more extreme. Fancy that turning up in debates just before a GE and having the competence to get a machine organised behind it.

01-13-2015 , 11:06 PM

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Ted Cruz is a Senator from Texas. Lawyer. Prosecutor. Graduate of Princeton and Harvard. Champion of debating in college.

01-14-2015 , 09:02 AM

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@MSmithsonPB: I love this. DC insists pre-election debates must include ‘a bake-off’ element. http://t.co/9ZlfkMlUAS

I loled

01-14-2015 , 02:04 PM

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This made me chuckle

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...w-quotes.html?

01-14-2015 , 03:46 PM

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Yes, because a party that only fields candidates in <10% of UK constituencies is totally relevant in terms of the national election debate, totally.

Anyway, let's hope they get the electoral disembowelling their new-found irrelevance so richly deserves in the wake of the independence debacle.

That's why they're polling at 52% of the Scottish vote. You know a lot.

01-14-2015 , 04:00 PM

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01-14-2015 , 05:52 PM

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That's why they're polling at 52% of the Scottish vote. You know a lot.

How much of the national vote (you know, the UK), General Election?

Also their new-found irrelevance refers, as you well know, to the fact that they will shortly no longer be able to vote on English issues.

They clearly have no place at the table in the televised discussions relating to the UK general election.

01-15-2015 , 10:29 AM

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They could quite possibly have the third largest share of seats post election, and there is a 10-15% chance they will have some part in the next government. They are most certainly not an irrelevance.

01-15-2015 , 01:38 PM

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Where's Niguel Farage? Oswald Mosley?

The dream debate would be between those two; I fully realizing that it would have to be a dream.

UKIP all the way. Any chance these buggers can weasel some of the power structure away from the usual urbane crowd of parasites, leeches, and sundry other demagogues?

Also, what are the odds voters surprise everyone and elect that Blue Rooster currently defiling Trafalgar Square?

01-15-2015 , 01:51 PM

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Where's Niguel Farage? Oswald Mosley?

Hope this doesn't break any rules. It is satire.

01-15-2015 , 06:28 PM

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My mum is on Question time in 5 mins. She's the yellow one.

01-15-2015 , 11:09 PM

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So your grandpappy was a Tory MP? And my Mum has met your Mum, how odd.

01-15-2015 , 11:52 PM

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Ted Cruz is a Senator from Texas. Lawyer. Prosecutor. Graduate of Princeton and Harvard. Champion of debating in college.

lol, isn't it something that you could have all those qualifiers and still be a simpleton?

My guess is that either being a prosecutor (like Christie and most of his soon to be indicted prosecutor friends), Coakley, Spitzer, Blago, Ashcroft, Gonzales, Reno, and others or a Texan is a disqualifier.

01-16-2015 , 09:27 AM

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My ad hominem retractors are wearing thin.

They already don't vote on English matters. If you knew anything about parliamentary protocols, you'd know that.

01-16-2015 , 10:06 AM

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He's not a simpleton haha but you can be forgiven for thinking so from the populist manner in which he speaks. It's just showmanship. Most of which he really believes but says in a manner he knows will gain him votes and hence real political power.

01-18-2015 , 09:13 AM

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Ted Cruz is a Senator from Texas. Lawyer. Prosecutor. Graduate of Princeton and Harvard. Champion of debating in college.

Just caught a bit of him on TV.

I don't think his style would go down that well here but it's the on the lines of the sort of thing I had in mind.

01-18-2015 , 09:24 AM

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They already don't vote on English matters. If you knew anything about parliamentary protocols, you'd know that.

If minor parties are in then there's a case for the SNP being included as long as the moderator isn't hopeless - much of the discussion will will be British issues not English or Scottish ones and if it's about something English only then they can just get an appropriately minimal share of that part.

Sure they don't stand in every seat but so what? if the Greens were much more successful but only stood in 60 seats or so they would have more of a case for being included than they do now.

01-18-2015 , 12:34 PM

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Imo the SNP should stand across the entire country. The spastics who're voting UKIP are largely doing it cos they think there's no alternative. Give them the SNP, although a name change would probably be in order.

01-18-2015 , 12:38 PM

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Do basically you're taking a roundabout way of saying that you think there should be a proper socialist party? I think it's the last thing any left leaning person in this country should want.

01-18-2015 , 02:26 PM

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Do basically you're taking a roundabout way of saying that you think there should be a proper socialist party? I think it's the last thing any left leaning person in this country should want.

SNP is not really a proper socialist party. Agree that another broadly leftist party helps nobody but the Conservatives.

01-18-2015 , 02:51 PM

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It's just not practical at the moment. If the SMP could embrace Europe at some point in the future and opinion shifts more in England then a pro-Europe liberal (a bit leftist) party that believes the UK is redundant might become possible (and possibly give me someone to vote for)

01-18-2015 , 03:56 PM

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As dumb as it is because the policies of the snp have no support even in Scotland, they were already the none if the above protest vote, giving the English and Welsh a chance to vote away the Scots would be hilarious.

"Remember when we wasted your money on that failed referendum and talked about how we hate you English, maybe vote for us? " Given the quality of education they could maybe spin their three day week policies as a positive - "four day weekend, yay"