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Originally Posted by [Phill]
The difference is that conservatives are going to give a referendum in the next parliament if they win. Given they are closer to the idiot ukip voters than labour then there is no argument for voting ukip in anything but a lock labour seat. Splitting the vote getting labour into power and not having the referendum would be the funniest outcome possible.
I mostly agree and I've long though it's labour who are most in danger but if the polls in a GE show ukip can win lots of tory seats then it can becomes a lot more dangerous.
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If ukip can't stand for giving a referendum on leaving Europe what is their selling point? They can't roll back gay marriage, the country isn't conservative enough that America wedge issues like abortion will play, even labour is down with boot-necking the poor, they are not openly free market because it has no play and things like limiting migrant rights (which is currently illegal) is on the table for the cons.
I don't think ukip care much about gay marriage, abortion etc it's not that sort of extremism. It's more general resentment, can't get a house, can't get a job, pc gone mad, health and safety gone mad, barmy climate change rules ruining the economy, immigrants, foreigners etc
reminds me of that Reggie Perrin sketch:
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Reggie: You realise the sort of people you're going to attract, don't you, Jimmy? Thugs, bully-boys, psychopaths, sacked policemen, security guards, sacked security guards, racialists, Paki-bashers, queer-bashers, Chink-bashers, anybody-bashers, rear Admirals, queer admirals, Vice Admirals, fascists, neo-fascists, crypto-fascists, loyalists, neo-loyalists, crypto-loyalists.
Jimmy: Do you think so? I thought recruitment might be difficult.