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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Because it's bull**** to have to leave for nothing more than dominating the debate vs. arguments that don't hold water.
Think you are fancy playing this. Odds are you guys were asked to leave because that is something the management of this site wanted for a while, and whatever happened this weekend was the final straw. I still have no idea what the specific thing was (if any) so feel free to let me know, because I aint searching to find out
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I do not mean to be insensitive, but as someone who has been in the online poker industry for about 15 years I have come to expect that massive changes happen all the time, usually when a person gets in a comfortable position, as that is always the best time for a groin shot. Thing is, I do not recall any soft landings like you guys are getting with the transition and link to the other site. When Genting decided to end our affiliate deal for instance, we found out because they stopped paying and when we asked they told us that they decided to end the deals, thanks for all the customers and have a nice day!
The management here are allowing a link to a different site which I have basically never seen allowed except for this specific one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5...tbChannel=null
For whatever reason you have to leave - you are getting a gentle exit.
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The only drama came from butthurt deplorables who clearly had an agenda - claiming unfair treatment when their blatant racism and constant bad-faith trolling wasn't coddled. If the owner wasn't sympathetic to their political views, they would have been laughed out of ATF like every other whiny unreasonable poster.
You are a bit biased on this assessment, so while there may be some truth to it - it is also pretty silly to believe that the "good guy" side was not a source of drama. Most of the regs here were quite high on the drama scale, but that is common in a forum like this with fairly narrow accepted beliefs.
I actually got temp banned here for trolling by a mod (I am horrid with remembering names I think it was Snookie) when over a year ago I asked if people would still respect Mueller's report when it came out if it did not have the conclusions they thought it should have. I was swarmed and called a deplorable and had a ton of personal attacks tossed at me, a bunch of really weird, stalky PMs (implying I was another account of one of the deplorables you guys always hate on). Was kind of ironic how things turned out on the Mueller thing, especially with the adjusted reactions, but that was happenstance, and hardly gifted insight.
Now, since I have posted a lot in the riggie thread that type of reaction was nothing new to me (though fewer violence and death threats via PM than riggies would do) and I found the 8 on 1 to make it a more even match once I saw my question was hurled back at me with venom. I simply picked the softer targets to reply to for a while until a mod yelled at everyone to stop replying etc.
Over a year later I tried again with a serious suggestion that the posters here create a thread where they list the type of political volunteer work they have done and/or some of their general experiences and that was met with some LOLs and some more sanitized insulting replies as it was in the nicer behavior era. Was I surprised? Nah. Did I care ? Not really. Still, it was a genuine suggestion and hopefully someone started a thread like that on the new forum as I still believe that would add some depth to the regs who live in the forums. If it was created by the right person then it will be considered a very good thread idea
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You seem like a decent person, and I have no memory of chatting with you in the past, but if you believe the big bad deplorables were the only source of drama - that is a tad naive.
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Multiple attempts were made to create a playground for these posters - which quickly devolved into stormfront every time. Yet somehow the main forum is the problem.
If every forum was shut down over hurt feelings and whining in ATF, 2p2 would have ceased to exist a long time ago.
I have been on these boards for about 14 years and I have no idea what the ATF even is =O.
Regardless, the reality is that this is a website owned by a person and fairness is never a guarantee, just as it was not when I would post once in a while in this forum. I accepted that as the way of the world, and you might want to come to grips with that as well.
I did take a quick glance at that new forum, and it seems that many there are very, very happy to have a place to call their own. Obviously things may change once the energy of the divorce wears off, much like on the TV show Survivor how things change after people live with each other for a while. You guys are an exceptionally intelligent group of people according to you guys, so use that and the energy you have and the very , VERY friendly departure terms (the spamming of the link is insane good and unexpected) to make the best of this new venture.
You need to accept that things change and charge forward and make the very best of it. That is always the best approach in a world that changes faster and faster.
Thank you for the discussion and I wish you and the rest of the people starting your new site the best of luck in that adventure. I hope there will be updates about it here at times as well. Best of luck, and have fun with it.