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11-16-2010, 10:11 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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aren't pretty much exempt
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Huh? What exactly are you saying?
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11-16-2010, 10:14 AM
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#152
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King Emeritus
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
I'd love to see the statistics on who gets called out of line.
I'm sure there aren't a lot of dumpy old hags in the mix. There should really be an independent entity supervising all TSA checkpoints and employees.
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Nobody is getting "called out of line" AFAIK. Everyone goes through the scanner unless you opt out, then you get the groping.
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11-16-2010, 10:17 AM
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#153
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adept
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
many people go just through the normal metal detector - some are "randomly" selected for the naked machine - if they opt out of the naked machine - they get the grope.
As I mentioned above - my Wife was "randomly" selected by the guy operating the metal detector - he gave her a little elevator eyes - got a half grin on his face - and said "you've been selected for the body scan" (or some such).
how they could expect a human to be 'random' is beyond me.
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11-16-2010, 10:18 AM
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#154
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
Heard a story about this on NPR this morning. Some flyer's group is basically suggesting that everyone opt out, get groped, and slow the system to a crawl as a protest. FWIW, I'm guessing this is unlikely to happen. Sheeple gotta be sheeple.
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11-16-2010, 10:21 AM
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#155
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actions have consequences!
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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Nobody is getting "called out of line" AFAIK. Everyone goes through the scanner unless you opt out, then you get the groping.
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No, you get picked out of line to go through the scanner.
Stuff like this would just piss me off to no end:
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Last week, one of my flying partners (Captain with Skywest) was going through security at DEN with his 18 year daughter. As his daughter approached the detector, the TSO working the NoS said on his headset, "heads up, got a cutie for you." He then confronted the TSA clerk with what he said and that neither of us are going through the NoS. The TSA clerk said you must have misunderstood me.
He said pat-down was pretty evasive, and his daughter felt uncomfortable.
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11-16-2010, 10:29 AM
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#156
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Don't Call Me Shirley
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
I wonder how discreetly I'd be able to hang out outside of the screening area at my airport and tally the statistics.
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11-16-2010, 10:46 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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You're right here, but who cares?
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tom wanted to know where the political support for these stricter measures are coming from.
While not answering the question (although more on that below), what I'm claiming is that there is very little sincere opposition to this -- the left doesn't want to criticize their own President and their administration, and the right's concerns are just cynical.
So I'd say tom's question is the wrong one, or at least I'd restate it to say that there's probably some lobbying interests pressuring to have more machines/blah blah, but more importantly, there's probably the perception that the administration needs to be seen as taking steps toward "making air travel safer"; that's what I think the support for this is. And that's real -- there are people out there who feel better with all this security theater, and people profiting from that, so the Obama admin is playing off of that; So the real question is -- who opposes this?
I would say that what sincere opposition that does exist is not really political: it's trade unions and consumers, the travel industry, etc.
Last edited by DVaut1; 11-16-2010 at 10:57 AM.
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11-16-2010, 10:48 AM
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#158
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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Has anyone mentioned yet that muslim women are pretty much exempt from these searches as well?
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You should back this up or retract it imo.
Esp given this post:
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I'd love to see the statistics on who gets called out of line.
I'm sure there aren't a lot of dumpy old hags in the mix. There should really be an independent entity supervising all TSA checkpoints and employees.
The TSA bullying pisses me off just as much as anything else. This is like a power-tripping cop-wanna-be pedophiles wet dream job.
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I mean its all, well mostly all, about making a show and appearing to do something. But that post just reeks of hard right dog whistling.
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11-16-2010, 10:49 AM
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grinder
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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11-16-2010, 10:51 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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No, you get picked out of line to go through the scanner
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Think this depends on the airport. Pretty sure last time I went through LAX every person got scanned. I'm assuming that's what that device you went through and held your hands above your head was. They also wait for confirmation before letting you pass after the scan.
Other airports like Milwaukee, Seattle, Minneapolis just have standard metal detectors everyone goes through with the occasional person being scanned.
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11-16-2010, 11:04 AM
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old hand
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
Can someone explain the claim that when I buy an airline ticket and show up at an airport I am waiving my rights to not be molested and/or blasted with radiation?
I mean, the part I don't understand is how it is remotely possible that I would be fined for leaving the premises instead of allowing myself to be subjected to these ridiculous screening techniques.
Where in writing am I agreeing to this situation?
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11-16-2010, 11:07 AM
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#162
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King Emeritus
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
No, you get picked out of line to go through the scanner.
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Oh, this is just temporary at the airports where they don't have enough of the scanners yet. Eventually the regular metal detectors will be gone.
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11-16-2010, 11:17 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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They accused Reno of being a lesbian, too.
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I don't think men can be lesbians.
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11-16-2010, 11:30 AM
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#164
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actions have consequences!
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
You should back this up or retract it imo.
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Let Me Google That For You:
http://floydreports.com/obama-gives-...m_medium=email
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11-16-2010, 11:36 AM
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#165
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: The TSA - Fondling your junk, for safety
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
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Bulls**t. The article CLAIMS that
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TSA officials will only pat down Muslim women in the head and neck area
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but when you follow the link to the CNS ("The Right News. Right Now") story, no such TSA exemption is mentioned.
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