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Alleged treasonous activities einbert.

He hasn't been convicted (or charged) with treason yet. You really need to control your tendency to grossly exaggerate unproven allegations as being factually undisputed criminal activities.

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03-21-2017 , 10:24 AM

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Just like Republicans did with Hillary's emails! So happy to live in a society that rewards petulant, hypocritical behavior

03-21-2017 , 10:42 AM

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Today in Trump's America, Republicans attempted to aid Trump in his cover-up of treasonous activities rather than trying to actually get the truth.

https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/st...40901793419265

Just curious einbert, how did Republicans attempt to cover up these treasonous activities? After all they are in control and could have not had a open hearing and not allowed any questions.

Do you honestly think it would have helped to ask more questions, when it was obvious that Comey could not get into specifics or even the basic facts?

03-21-2017 , 01:25 PM

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They could appoint a special prosecutor. They could do their own investigation. They could subpoena Flynn and Co. They chose to do nothing.

03-21-2017 , 03:19 PM

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They could appoint a special prosecutor. They could do their own investigation. They could subpoena Flynn and Co. They chose to do nothing.

Congressional Republicans? They do not have the authority to appoint a special prosecutor. The are doing investigations and a few have already said they want Flynn to testify.

Besides it is not a cover up where there is an on going FBI investigation. They are not blocking the on going investigation. They are not helping or assisting in destruction of any evidence.

Besides it is pretty stupid to say they did nothing. They allowed the investigation which called Comey to testify in open session. Just because they did not ask the questions einbert wanted it is pretty stupid to say it is a cover up. If they wanted to not have the hearing to begin with it is easily defensible.

03-21-2017 , 03:49 PM

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Besides it is not a cover up where there is an on going FBI investigation. They are not blocking the on going investigation. They are not helping or assisting in destruction of any evidence.

Did you watch the hearing yesterday? Republicans on that committee are absolutely trying to block the investigation. They said it is "a dark cloud" that needs to go away as quickly as possible. They are far more concerned about pushing it to this side, calling it a done investigation and moving on to tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires than they are in finding the truth. If you're going to be disingenuous, people are going to have a hard time taking you seriously.

03-21-2017 , 03:51 PM

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https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/st...36977036677127

03-21-2017 , 03:52 PM

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https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/st...77685571059718

03-21-2017 , 03:53 PM

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This guy doesn't have a checkmark but apparently he was an advisor to John McCain acc. to Evan McMullin:

https://twitter.com/MarkSalter55/sta...45859901149184

03-21-2017 , 03:53 PM

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Look into Kasparov's political background. He's not exactly a bleeding heart liberal (he's economically quite conservative). But he knows an authoritarian threat when he sees one and he's not afraid to call it out:

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/statu...54798076198914

03-21-2017 , 03:55 PM

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This is from back in January, but the alarm bells have only gotten louder since them. Experts and scholars in authoritarianism are trying to tell us: this is not normal!!!

Experts in authoritarianism are very concerned about Trump’s first few days as president
The GOP’s unwillingness to rein him in may be the biggest warning sign.
https://thinkprogress.org/a-few-days...503#.zhngkgqgj

03-21-2017 , 04:02 PM

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Yes I watched the hearing. It is why congress really should not be doing these so called "investigation." It was pure theater and grand standing and very little fact gathering. They really are not set up for finding the truth. It really turned into the Democrats going through talking points about individual ties to Russia and Comey saying can't comment and the Republicans asking about the leaks and Comey saying not everything reported is the truth and I can't comment on what is or isn't.

What did you see which indicates any Republicans tried to block the investigation? (not sure your talking committee or FBI)

03-21-2017 , 04:04 PM

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I'm not saying they want to "block" the investigation in terms of not having one. I'm saying they want to get it over with, move on to the next thing, without fully investigating the matter actually.

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It is why congress really should not be doing these so called "investigation." It was pure theater and grand standing and very little fact gathering.

I basically agree with this. It needs to be handled by a special prosecutor, Congress is too partisan to deal with this issue.

03-21-2017 , 04:07 PM

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Yes I watched the hearing. It is why congress really should not be doing these so called "investigation." It was pure theater and grand standing and very little fact gathering.

Oh hey, I wonder what this "ogallalabob" guy thinks about "so called investigations" involving "pure theater and grand standing and very little fact gathering" in other situations:

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Shocking that either party might conduct political sideshows. The Dems would never do such a thing.

Not withstanding, it seems like the left is trying to build this up as a have to have corruption or bust committee. Which is not the case. Congress has the ability to investigate, the select committee's purpose is to investigate more in depth. There is about 10 questions/areas where answers were never given and are impossible to obtain in the previous committee formats. Some witnesses did not testify, times of questioning and length of witnesses testifying are very limited etc.

Even if there is no corruption, (still curious how no evidence of protests occuring in Benghazi and actual ground reports of well armed militia became "no evidence of a preplanned attack, and all evidence shows that it was spawned as a spontaneous reaction to a video") it still should highlight some very questionable if not negligent decisions by the State department. Not sure how that does not help the GOP.

Oh, got it, Democrats need a special committee to really get to the bottom of this, and as long as they come out of it with the GOP looking dirty then the means will be justified!

03-21-2017 , 04:23 PM

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Oh hey, I wonder what this "ogallalabob" guy thinks about "so called investigations" involving "pure theater and grand standing and very little fact gathering" in other situations:

Oh, got it, Democrats need a special committee to really get to the bottom of this, and as long as they come out of it with the GOP looking dirty then the means will be justified!

Not sure what your trying to say. But yeah it looks like I was correct holding the Benghazi hearings did not hurt the Republicans in anyway. Which also does not answer the question of whether the Republicans have any duty to help the Democrats grandstand in this situation.

03-21-2017 , 04:30 PM

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I'm not saying they want to "block" the investigation in terms of not having one. I'm saying they want to get it over with, move on to the next thing, without fully investigating the matter actually.

I basically agree with this. It needs to be handled by a special prosecutor, Congress is too partisan to deal with this issue.

You seem to lack a basic understanding of what a is a special prosecutor and who decides if one is necessary. It is not a congress has a conflict situation. The DOJ has the call on whether one is necessary. Which would depend on whether a law was broken or not and if so who allegedly broke the law. So yeah I think if the FBI finds a law was broken then there is a good chance the DOJ should step aside.

03-21-2017 , 04:35 PM

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Donald Trump should be immediately removed from office — before we hit rock bottom
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...=NYDailyNewsTw

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Piece by piece, James Comey and Admiral Michael Rogers tore apart every single aspect of Trump's false claims. First they said that President Obama did not have the power to order such wiretaps. Then they said that they had investigated Trump's claims and did not find a shred of evidence that any such wiretap ever existed. Pushed on the conspiracy theory that possibly the British government was asked to do it by Obama, Admiral Rogers, who again was appointed by Trump to replace disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn, stated the claim simply was not true and that the assertion from the White House that it was true was damaging to our international relationships.

To make sure his statement on the matter was abundantly clear, FBI Director Comey said he had the full permission of the Justice Department to speak on their behalf that they also found absolutely no evidence that Donald Trump was wiretapped by Obama, or anyone else for that matter. Mind you — the Justice Department is overseen by Trump's bestie, Jeff Sessions, and even Sessions could not bring himself to join in on the lie.

It was a bombshell. In front of the entire world, under oath, two leaders of our intelligence community testified that our current President repeatedly told flagrant lies on our previous President.

03-21-2017 , 04:38 PM

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https://twitter.com/dailykos/status/844274466658144258

03-21-2017 , 04:51 PM

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https://twitter.com/amanbatheja/stat...60304087404545

03-21-2017 , 05:15 PM

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https://twitter.com/TheRickyDavila/s...54802653646848

03-21-2017 , 08:10 PM

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Truth of the matter is that GOP supporters are not GOP supporters. They are Trump supporters. He is all that matters. If the GOP finally gives in to reason and diverges from Trump on anything, no question Trump supporters will chuck them to the curb.

Even if the revised health care plan passes, Trump slappies will say, "The GOP ****ed it up for us. Trump said to do what he said and they didn't put it in the bill. It's their fault, not his."

I've said it time and again: Trump supporters need to be treated like Scientologists. Just nod your head at whatever they say and find an out as quickly as possible. Anybody who still supports Trump after all of this is irredeemable.

03-21-2017 , 09:09 PM

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November:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...50338384023552

Today:

https://twitter.com/kfury/status/844340256933502976

03-21-2017 , 09:14 PM

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This is literally corruption. This is the very definition of corruption. How are we letting them get away with this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.af34610e6941

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Sales of Ivanka Trump’s branded products skyrocketed on Feb. 9, the same day White House counselor Kellyanne Conway promoted the line on Fox News. (Lyst)

03-21-2017 , 09:23 PM

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November:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...50338384023552

Today:

https://twitter.com/kfury/status/844340256933502976

lol. Aside from saying Ivanka was a piece of ass, has Trump ever made a true statement? At this point, we should catalogue his true statements. Maybe in the form of a gold star board, like for children.