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01-14-2017 , 02:16 PM
Important people
01-14-2017 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Important people
Said it was the best murder
01-14-2017 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
People are saying, he bragged about it. People are talking.
Humm I heard people talking about it too. Maybe there is something to it. I don't know, but people have been saying that.
01-15-2017 , 10:14 AM
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/..._most-comments

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2945070

Expect this to increase in Trump's America, as conservative extremists become more emboldened and thus more than happy to embrace acting like this.
01-15-2017 , 03:43 PM
re: the NYDN story

you back the girl? seriously?
01-15-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Can do.



Sourced from The Atlantic. Graph shows the return each state gets for every $1 given to the federal govt.

States getting over $2 back include KY, WV, MS, AL, LA, FL and SC.
Hi Chris,

I have never understood this graph that has been posted many time as evidence. The article says the graph indicates " how much the federal government spends per person in each state compared with the amount its citizens pay in federal income taxes"

How is Hawaii listed as the 5th largest taker on this list yet has the 8th highest percapita income?

How is North Dakota listed as the second biggest taker while it has the second lowest % of people on food stamps:



One explanation is offered by the piece you sited, namely:

"Part of the explanation for why southern states dominate the “most dependent” category is historical. During the many decades in the 20th century when the South was solidly Democratic, its congressional representatives in both the House and the Senate, enjoying great seniority, came to hold leadership positions on powerful committees, which they used to send federal dollars back to their home states in the form of contracts, projects, installations. "

Not arguing that Alabama and other similar states don't have poorer economies, but the "proof" you sited is somewhat contaminated with large confounders.
01-15-2017 , 04:58 PM
Guessing, but:

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Originally Posted by np1235711
How is Hawaii listed as the 5th largest taker on this list yet has the 8th highest percapita income?
Island life is probably heavily subsidized due to the cost of extending government services to a group of remote islands in the Pacific

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Originally Posted by np1235711
How is North Dakota listed as the second biggest taker while it has the second lowest % of people on food stamps:
They probably get lots of money for things that aren't food stamps

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Originally Posted by np1235711
Not arguing that Alabama and other similar states don't have poorer economies, but the "proof" you sited is somewhat contaminated with large confounders.
Why are the reasons things are this way particularly important? It doesn't change the great irony that the states full of "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps" type voters are the greatest moochers.
01-15-2017 , 05:20 PM


01-15-2017 , 06:24 PM
lol np trying to math.
01-15-2017 , 06:27 PM
Hawaii is easy. There is a lot of high end vacation living and second homes for wealthy people. Meanwhile they have a huge issue with poverty impacting a large percentage of native Hawaiins as well as a large influx of people from other places who managed to scrap enough for a ticket to Hawaii. Why not be poor there.

Hawaii is very much two different worlds and three different cultures.

Hawaii has also had an extreme crystal meth problem for a long time.
01-15-2017 , 06:33 PM
Hawaii has a large naval base but otherwise a pretty small economy.

It was very telling of np to go
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How is North Dakota listed as the second biggest taker while it has the second lowest % of people on food stamps:
and it's worth unpacking. Surveys consistently show low education whites enormously overestimate how much government spends on welfare. This is because they are racist and think the government exists to steal their tax dollars to give to minorities. (they also hugely overestimate the percentage of food stamps that go to minorities)

Anyone with loose familiarity with the actual budget would see the obvious correlations between where military bases exist and which states have heavily subsidized industries like agriculture.

Last edited by FlyWf; 01-15-2017 at 06:45 PM.
01-15-2017 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
re: the NYDN story

you back the girl? seriously?
Not really wild about her being handed tens of thousands of dollars by strangers on the Internet, but her father is a slimebag.

Please don't tell me, at 18, she's supposed to just go pay for everything herself if she's cut off by her parents. There are a bunch of people on this very site who are about a decade older than she is who can't manage to move out of Mom and Dad's house.

Interesting that that's what you took out of the post.
01-15-2017 , 09:25 PM
i mean, he's a slimebag if her story's 100% accurate, but she's an 18 yr old begging for money on the internet using political undercurrents for her own advantage. it screams fraud.
01-15-2017 , 10:59 PM
She's 18. She has no idea what else to do. There's little reason to doubt her story.

If her cause is so bad, then everyone can illustrate it to her by not donating.
01-15-2017 , 11:11 PM
That story is sad. Sad that parents disown their children because of something like that, even if you half-believe what the father said, and sad that millions of people read stories like that and think "PC gone mad. Thank Jesus we have Trump now."
01-18-2017 , 05:21 PM
01-18-2017 , 05:58 PM
I live in Georgia which is merely flying under the radar of horror at the moment due to a less-horrific-than-advertised governor and thus have little room to talk, but wow, that Mississippi holiday list is just completely over the top.
01-18-2017 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewT50
I live in Georgia which is merely flying under the radar of horror at the moment due to a less-horrific-than-advertised governor and thus have little room to talk, but wow, that Mississippi holiday list is just completely over the top.
Ya nobody mentioned it and I played it too cool, but the thing I wanted to draw attention to was that instead of President's Day they deleted Lincoln and solely celebrate Washington's birthday. What. The. ****.
01-18-2017 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Ya nobody mentioned it and I played it too cool, but the thing I wanted to draw attention to was that instead of President's Day they deleted Lincoln and solely celebrate Washington's birthday. What. The. ****.
I noticed that. No wonder there's no progress in the South, they're still fighting a war they lost decisively a hundred years before they were born.
01-19-2017 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by True North
I noticed that. No wonder there's no progress in the South, they're still fighting a war they lost decisively a hundred years before they were born.
Reconstruction and Reformation never die.
01-19-2017 , 01:43 AM
So if the south seceded from the US, uh, what exactly would we be missing out on?
01-19-2017 , 04:54 AM
A gun-grabbing, theocratic kleptocracy?
01-19-2017 , 06:51 AM
And excellent BBQ
01-19-2017 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Hawaii has a large naval base but otherwise a pretty small economy.

It was very telling of np to go


and it's worth unpacking. Surveys consistently show low education whites enormously overestimate how much government spends on welfare. This is because they are racist and think the government exists to steal their tax dollars to give to minorities. (they also hugely overestimate the percentage of food stamps that go to minorities)

Anyone with loose familiarity with the actual budget would see the obvious correlations between where military bases exist and which states have heavily subsidized industries like agriculture.
There are 8 different military bases scattered around the islands.

https://militarybases.com/hawaii/

That's a lot of federal money spread around.
01-19-2017 , 09:37 AM
Spokane WA


      
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