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11-21-2016 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Ethos (the characteristic spirit of a culture, manifested in its beliefs and aspirations) and Pathos (a quality of an experience that stirs up emotions of pity, sympathy, and sorrow) are "real," just like facts are.
ἔθος and πάθος surely, but also μύθος imo. Along with the facts, they have to be packaged into a compelling story...
11-21-2016 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
Nah that approach will just turn their minds to "lul look at this libtard play the race card again"

Or they'll be confused and dont understand why that's offensive to me because i'm white. I'm dead serious.
Yeah you're right, but remember these people respect you. Deep down they know you're smarter than them, they're impressed with how you carry yourself, and with vigilance and determination many of them can be swayed. Obama, MLK, Bernie, etc. all had this stuff down cold.

And if that still doesn't work, just start calling them a klan lover until they leave you alone. jk
11-21-2016 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
jmakin,

My friend is an IT Professional at a medium-sized, fairly liberal university. He is the only one is his department who was for Hillary and he has been hounded about it for weeks, especially since the election ended. The people he works with aren't carpenters or steelworkers, they have college degrees and are not experiencing a great amount of economic anxiety.

I think this is somehow related to fascism, but I'm not exactly sure how to connect the dots. But it seems like this kind of extremely strong social pressure, even after the election, is a precursor to something much bigger to me.
Jesus. Anyone think we'll see a noticeable exodus of "the other" booking it from red states to blue ones? (Maybe the ones who could afford to leave did so yesterday?)
11-21-2016 , 06:57 PM
From watching episodes of The Apprentice, I would have never have pegged his political views as being nationalist.
11-21-2016 , 07:18 PM
11-21-2016 , 07:24 PM
11-21-2016 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert

My friend is an IT Professional at a medium-sized, fairly liberal university. He is the only one is his department who was for Hillary and he has been hounded about it for weeks, especially since the election ended. The people he works with aren't carpenters or steelworkers, they have college degrees and are not experiencing a great amount of economic anxiety.

I think this is somehow related to fascism, but I'm not exactly sure how to connect the dots. But it seems like this kind of extremely strong social pressure, even after the election, is a precursor to something much bigger to me.
If we are talking fascism.

Its worth remembering that the Nazi's drew their support from the middle and upper classes.
11-21-2016 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
If we are talking fascism.

Its worth remembering that the Nazi's drew their support from the middle and upper classes.
I think any and all history lessons regarding fascism and other authoritarianisms are useful right now. By all means, lay it on us.
11-21-2016 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by vaya
Lol at even bothering to argue with someone we know gets their "news" exclusively from Facebook memes and websites with sections devoted to black crime.
Unfortunately, this characterization probably accounts for >90% of Trump voters.
11-21-2016 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
I think any and all history lessons regarding fascism and other authoritarianisms are useful right now. By all means, lay it on us.
If history is any guide, what we need to do is get Trump to launch an ill advised ground invasion of Russia.
11-21-2016 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
If history is any guide, what we need to do is get Trump to launch an ill advised ground invasion of Russia.
Well, it's Trump we're talking about, so there's a way to make this happen. We have to insult him really hard about not being able to invade Russia. If he really starts to feel the heat that people think he's soft and he won't invade Russia, I bet he'd do it.
11-21-2016 , 08:37 PM



It's kind of a little known time in American history, as it's not taught that much in school. But this was an age of terror and violent politics that followed the Reconstruction. Whites in the south took back political power by force and it was horrible, and it was bloody, and elite white liberals in the north were powerless to stop it. In fact many white liberals in the south were killed in the resulting violence.

http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/a...ogy/redemption
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In the context of southern politics, the term Redemption refers to the overthrow or defeat of Radical Republicans (white and black) by white Democrats, marking the end of the Reconstruction era in the South. In addition to its biblical allusions, the term also underscores the widely held belief among white southerners of that era that the Republican state regimes that ruled during Reconstruction had been inefficient and corrupt, and that the "Redeemers" who reestablished white Democratic control of the state also restored effective and honest government. In recent years historians have come to avoid the term because of both the bias it suggests and the very different way in which modern scholars interpret the overthrow of Reconstruction.
Edit: It's pretty amazing that "inefficient and corrupt" is now one of the biggest charges of Republicans (then Democrats) against Democrats (then Republicans) today. The more things change, the more they stay the same, am I right?
11-21-2016 , 10:46 PM
^^ this is why it is so painful when O.A.F.K and others come along with the economic anxiety stuff, no matter how well intentioned.
11-22-2016 , 12:08 AM

11-22-2016 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
jmakin,

My friend is an IT Professional at a medium-sized, fairly liberal university. He is the only one is his department who was for Hillary and he has been hounded about it for weeks, especially since the election ended. The people he works with aren't carpenters or steelworkers, they have college degrees and are not experiencing a great amount of economic anxiety.

I think this is somehow related to fascism, but I'm not exactly sure how to connect the dots. But it seems like this kind of extremely strong social pressure, even after the election, is a precursor to something much bigger to me.
Throughout this election Trump supporters I know seemed to have this ominous posture about them in how they talked and felt. It went beyond simply disagreeing with them politically. It was more of an us vs. them mentality. Now that the election is over and Trump won, that posture not only still exists, but feels like if you're not one of them, you better look out because things could get very bad for you.
11-22-2016 , 12:46 AM
Yeah, the worst thing the left is willing to do to somebody is shame them (maybe get them fired from their jobs). These guys have the potential to be much more ruthless.
11-22-2016 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Yeah, the worst thing the left is willing to do to somebody is shame them (maybe get them fired from their jobs). These guys have the potential to be much more ruthless.

I dunno, it seems to be open season on cops in the waning days of Obama's America. This **** is about to go off the rails, but by all means, continue to do your parts to froth up and scare monger. Don't say I didn't warn y'all (qaeda)
11-22-2016 , 01:06 AM
Open season?

You mean like how cops get charged with murder while in uniform .00001% of the times someone is shot?
11-22-2016 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
Open season?

You mean like how cops get charged with murder while in uniform .00001% of the times someone is shot?

No, like mother ****ers are shooting cops left and right. That kind of open season.
11-22-2016 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Losing all
No, like mother ****ers are shooting cops left and right. That kind of open season.
citation needed?
11-22-2016 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Losing all
I dunno, it seems to be open season on cops in the waning days of Obama's America. This **** is about to go off the rails, but by all means, continue to do your parts to froth up and scare monger. Don't say I didn't warn y'all (qaeda)
Political disagreements, differences of opinion, this kind of crap, not jackasses taking potshots.

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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
Open season?

You mean like how cops get charged with murder while in uniform .00001% of the times someone is shot?
What? How'd you get his point that wrong?
11-22-2016 , 02:02 AM
Plumbers get poopoo on their hands, thanks Obama!

Obv I'm not yawning at murdered officers, but Losing will think I am, cuz he is oh so not so smart.
11-22-2016 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
citation needed?

You can't be serious, talk about a bubble.


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Originally Posted by 5ive
Plumbers get poopoo on their hands, thanks Obama!

This post would be less stupid if it weren't in a thread where bathroom stall graffiti was being attributed to President(-elect) Trump.

      
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