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Old 07-13-2012, 12:02 PM   #10681
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2. Grass stains on GZs shirt. If, as he says, his head was slammed against concrete, he must have been partly on the grass, partly on the concrete? Or they moved around on the ground during hte fight?
Zimmerman's story on the reenactment video was that he was on his back in the grass with his head on the edge of the sidewalk. When his head was being banged on the sidewalk he tried to scoot over so that it would be hitting the grass.

If you can, try to find the whole reenactment video online, not just the snippets that the various media put up.


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Old 07-13-2012, 12:21 PM   #10682
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Do you bother to even read the facts of the case. The lead investigators said that in his opinion, GZ linked TM to the Goons due to his hoodie, not skin color, as the Goons typically wore hoodies.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07...ot-racist.html

I have no clue if GZ actually said Goons, or associated hoodies with the Goons (as hoodies are pretty common), but to say there is "literally" no other reason, when the lead investigator says he believes it was for an entirely unrelated reason is pretty pathetic.
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Serino explained on numerous occasions he asked Zimmerman if he followed Martin based on his skin color and Zimmerman never admitted to this fact."
Case closed fellas. Lol.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:24 PM   #10683
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Tonight at 8 EST O'Reilly is delving deep into the report that Zimmerman has no racist history.

Shall we have a viewing/sweat thread?
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:16 PM   #10684
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This was the biggest news in the evidence drop yesterday IMO: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/1...zimmerman.html

Det. Serino didn't want to charge Zim because of a lack of evidence. 3 other officers wanted Zim arrested. One of the 3 was Sgt. Barnes (from the article):

...a 25-year veteran of the department, told the FBI that he believed the black community would be “in an uproar” if Zimmerman was not charged. “The community will be satisfied if an arrest takes place,” the FBI quoted him saying. Barnes “felt the shooting was not racially motivated, but it was a man shooting an unarmed kid.”

So the hell with evidence, the hell with the shooting not being racially motivated, we need to arrest Zim to appease the black community. You ever wonder why no grand jury was convened for this case? There wasn't a grand jury because Zim would never have been indicted once the prosecution's 'evidence' was put on the table.

LOL at 'slight fist fight'. Good one fatkid.
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Fatkid has been rather entertaining ITT if I do say so myself.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:50 PM   #10686
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Grunch: Goon gang probably dresses up like hockey players and fights the Baseball Furies.
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:00 PM   #10687
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Appeasing the community is as good a reason to arrest someone as aiding the political campaign of an elected DA who will run for reelection before the trial. We don't need no stinkin' evidence of a crime.
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:45 PM   #10689
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So the same cops who coached a witness and bungled the investigation are officially declaring Zim to be not racist? Yeah, that clears that up.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:05 PM   #10690
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This was the biggest news in the evidence drop yesterday IMO: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/1...zimmerman.html

Det. Serino didn't want to charge Zim because of a lack of evidence. 3 other officers wanted Zim arrested. One of the 3 was Sgt. Barnes (from the article):

...a 25-year veteran of the department, told the FBI that he believed the black community would be “in an uproar” if Zimmerman was not charged. “The community will be satisfied if an arrest takes place,” the FBI quoted him saying. Barnes “felt the shooting was not racially motivated, but it was a man shooting an unarmed kid.”

So the hell with evidence, the hell with the shooting not being racially motivated, we need to arrest Zim to appease the black community. You ever wonder why no grand jury was convened for this case? There wasn't a grand jury because Zim would never have been indicted once the prosecution's 'evidence' was put on the table.

LOL at 'slight fist fight'. Good one fatkid.
Well played skipping the last sentence of your quote. Kind of important evidence.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:39 AM   #10691
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How to tell if something is racist (Conservative edition)

1. Read a sentence eg "those welfare queens get handouts of my money and spend it on drugs."

2. Check each word in the sentence against the "list of words that you're not allowed to say for some reason probably political correctness gone mad".

3. Are any if the words in the sentence on the list?

If yes maybe racist.

If no not racist.
From the racists I know it's more like:

1. N word used.

If yes maybe racist, but why can rappers say it?

If no definitely not racist.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:12 AM   #10692
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Zimmerman's story on the reenactment video was that he was on his back in the grass with his head on the edge of the sidewalk. When his head was being banged on the sidewalk he tried to scoot over so that it would be hitting the grass.

If you can, try to find the whole reenactment video online, not just the snippets that the various media put up.


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That story is so full of holes. I cannot buy that story at all. His wounds are not consistent with his story. If he indeed was getting his head slammed multiple times on the concrete I assure you those wounds would be worst. Medical attention would have been needed. Concussion more than likely. He might not have been conscious at the scene had he truly been laying on his back with his head being slammed on the concrete multiple times.

The other issue is the screaming help in the 911 phone call. That is not the voice of an adult male. It also sounds like someone who would be screaming with tears in their eyes.

Watch the video where they take Zimmerman in that night. It does not show any blood on his clothes. His clothes look pretty clean to me. I don't see how you can shoot someone with them on top of you without getting any blood on your clothes.

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There may have been a possibility cops took his clothes as evidence prior to going to the station. Now my question is this standard operating procedure?

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Old 07-14-2012, 07:33 AM   #10693
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The other issue is the screaming help in the 911 phone call. That is not the voice of an adult male. It also sounds like someone who would be screaming with tears in their eyes.
Would it really shock you if GZ sounded like a crying 11 year old when getting beat up?
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:48 AM   #10694
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Would it really shock you if GZ sounded like a crying 11 year old when getting beat up?
Yeah considering multiple forensic voice experts have excluded GZ from yelling help in the audio. This is going to be used to testify against him and this type of evidence has been used in court before.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:43 AM   #10695
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Yeah considering multiple forensic voice experts have excluded GZ from yelling help in the audio. This is going to be used to testify against him and this type of evidence has been used in court before.
I'm not saying that is what happened, i'm not saying anything about the case

I'm just saying i bet if GZ got beat up he would cry and sound prepubescent is all
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