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12-17-2014 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Absolutely unreal. This woman needs to be charged with obstruction of justice or perjury or something.
Screw that. The prosecutor needs to be charged by the DOJ. That might actually make a slight difference in these kinds of cases in the future.
12-17-2014 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
I'm sure the pro Wilson group, especially those who called for the prosecution of witnesses who disagreed with witness 40 and DW, will be along any moment now to say she should be prosecuted and that a mistake may have been made due to the mishandling of the case (to put it mildly) by the DA.
They waited for the facts until Witness 40's testimony came out. You can't expect them to wait longer for more facts.
12-17-2014 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Screw that. The prosecutor needs to be charged by the DOJ. That might actually make a slight difference in these kinds of cases in the future.
But but but he's an elected DEMOCRAT!
12-17-2014 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JAAASH
But but but he's an elected DEMOCRAT!
Unlike some folks we can evidently see past that.
12-18-2014 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MickeyB105
Vitally and Wlad aren't getting any younger, that's for sure.

Is there a psychological barrier for white cornerbacks?
It's not just those two. A lot of Eastern Euro and Russian fighters. Goes to show, or at least seems to support, that there is a cultural component.

I think there is a psychological barrier in the minds of players and coaches as far as race and positions in football. That goes for white cornerbacks and black quarterbacks.

I'm not saying different groups of people necessarily have equal potential, but unequal results do not prove unequal potential.
12-18-2014 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet

I think there is a psychological barrier in the minds of players and coaches as far as race and positions in football. That goes for white cornerbacks and black quarterbacks.

I'm not saying different groups of people necessarily have equal potential, but unequal results do not prove unequal potential.
But there is also evidence in regards to potential to run fast has a lot to do with body type and having a higher center of gravity.

http://www.pratt.duke.edu/news/speed...center-gravity
12-18-2014 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
But there is also evidence in regards to potential to run fast has a lot to do with body type and having a higher center of gravity.

http://www.pratt.duke.edu/news/speed...center-gravity
Despite the fact that there's a white guy faster than all but about 8 black guys in the world, maybe sprinting is one thing that will never change, but when I was 20 there were no white heavyweight contenders, one black quarterback, no white rappers, no hope of a black president, no black golfers, fewer white basketball players, etc.
12-18-2014 , 09:02 PM
there were fewer white basketball players back in your day?
12-19-2014 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by aces_dad
there were fewer white basketball players back in your day?
I don't know for sure, but it seems like it. My day being the 80's I guess.
12-19-2014 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I don't know for sure, but it seems like it. My day being the 80's I guess.
Actually it hasn't changed much. I thought there were a lot of eastern Europeans now, but I guess not so many.
12-19-2014 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Despite the fact that there's a white guy faster than all but about 8 black guys in the world, maybe sprinting is one thing that will never change, but when I was 20 there were no white heavyweight contenders, one black quarterback, no white rappers, no hope of a black president, no black golfers, fewer white basketball players, etc.
so you are saying #9 (assuming anyone actually knows who this is and if its true) is a white guy....but the other top 10 are i assume black? so your arguement is the very best sprinter of an entire race is 9th fastest...got it.

can i also assume the NFL is racist because there are virtually all CB's, S, RB's - of course not it is only racist because there are more white QB's. Coaches don't care about winning they are hired to continue white power!!

Funny stuff I love this site.
12-19-2014 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
That's a totally invalid conclusion. Would whites be considered racists to think blacks are faster than whites? Are the NFL racists when over 90% of running backs are black?
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Originally Posted by Strike-3
so you are saying #9 (assuming anyone actually knows who this is and if its true) is a white guy....but the other top 10 are i assume black? so your arguement is the very best sprinter of an entire race is 9th fastest...got it.

can i also assume the NFL is racist because there are virtually all CB's, S, RB's - of course not it is only racist because there are more white QB's. Coaches don't care about winning they are hired to continue white power!!

Funny stuff I love this site.
The problem with using this example is the fact that the media has repeatedly said "why aren't there more black QB's".
12-19-2014 , 06:25 PM
McCulloch went on the radio today and confirmed that any random idiot who claims to have witnessed the shooting was allowed to testify in front of the grand jury. Even if they were clearly lying. But no one will be charged with perjury! Skip to 8:50

12-19-2014 , 06:37 PM
Just came to post that info. So infuriating.

"I just made that decision."
12-19-2014 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JAAASH
But but but he's an elected DEMOCRAT!
I love that you think this is some kind of trump card on this forum.
12-19-2014 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Strike-3
so you are saying #9 (assuming anyone actually knows who this is and if its true) is a white guy....but the other top 10 are i assume black? so your arguement is the very best sprinter of an entire race is 9th fastest...got it.

can i also assume the NFL is racist because there are virtually all CB's, S, RB's - of course not it is only racist because there are more white QB's. Coaches don't care about winning they are hired to continue white power!!

Funny stuff I love this site.
This is so far from what I was saying it's pretty astounding. You have such a strong filter in your brain that virtually nothing gets through.

The white guy is Christophe Lamaitre. He's the first white guy to break 10.0 in the 100m (disputed though). I don't know exactly where he is on the sprinter standings, but he's won Gold in several European Championships and Silver and Bronze in world championships.

In part I was thinking about him, in part on an article I read years ago (and can't find) about the psychological barrier for white sprinters as well as bias. White sprinters themselves don't feel they can make it to the elite levels and also in track, even the fastest white sprinters are steered towards longer distances. I don't know or endorse this book, but "Race and Reality" by Guy Harrison goes into some of this.

In football are black players steered towards black positions and white players towards white positions? I would think so. I would think it mostly happens before they get into the NFL. I know many athletic black HS quarterbacks get moved to other positions in college. Maybe guys like Steve Young who was 205lbs and ran the 40 in 4.55s (Jerry Rice ran it in 4.71s) would have been moved to another position instead of ending up being the 2nd all time leading rushing QB.

I'm specifically saying it goes both ways. But you can't read what is obvious.

Now I'll do the translation that goes on in your brain:

blah blah blah OBAMA POWER blah blah WHY DIDN"T WE JUST TRY TO APPEASE HITLER EVEN MORE? blah blah EVERYONE IS RACIST blah blah WHITE PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE AND HAVE RUINED EVERYTHING blah blah
12-20-2014 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GEAUX UL
Great. This is what I've been waiting for since this whole thing started.

And **** everyone who called me a racist for wanting to wait for the evidence to come out before I made a decision.

Congratulations, you guys look like complete idiots.
Post of the Year?

[ GEAUX patiently waiting for the facts (the testimony of witness 40) before forming an opinion. Teamwaitforthefacts# ]
12-20-2014 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GEAUX UL
The thing is, every single word he said to that grand jury is on record and available to the public to examine. If there are any signs of impropriety or misconduct it's there for everyone to see and take action against.

Personally, I read the beginning of the transcript, and I thought he was about as fair as humanly possible about everything. And it also seemed like the only interaction he had with the grand jury was at the very beginning to go over some nuts and bolts. After that he passed off everything to a couple assistants.
LOL
12-20-2014 , 06:02 PM
I bet geaux will be along soon to tell us how utterly embarrassed he feels about his posting in the thread. If only he waited for all the facts that the prosecutor blew the case and allowed people to lie on the stand. Literally. He literally allowed racists to testify as if they were witnesses despite it being near certain locks they were nowhere near the scene. Thus may be the most incompetent thing I have ever read about ever, if i could somehow believe it wasn't done on purpose.
12-20-2014 , 06:44 PM
Word on the street is to stay off the streets .
12-20-2014 , 07:57 PM
It was an ******* that was already on the run for murder. I'm sure folks like JAAASH will use this to bash all people that care about the issue but seems like dude just wanted a name for himself.
12-20-2014 , 08:12 PM
Hopefully the police don't seek revenge.
12-20-2014 , 08:15 PM
He's already dead from his own gun.
12-20-2014 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TimRed
Hopefully the police don't seek revenge.

Read wookies post.

      
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