so much this. so ****ing tilting

Like that Labour ad. I consider myself generally moderate, but it's time to move on from B. Clinton, Al Gore, J. Kerry, and even Obama centrism. If the Dems are going to error, they should error on the side of being too leftist. Just need to nominate someone with some balls (preferably a Democrat who is not under FBI investigation).

This is from someone who isn't just not a fan of the great man theory of history, but has antipathy for it, but I think what is one of the best things about Bernie is that it's really a call for mass support.

Obama could have been the guy. We could have achieved a ton when the dems had control, but we failed ourselves at least as much as he failed us.

"Help us choose the winner!"

And the winner is.... THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! Tell them what they've won!

Well, it looks like they've won two more years of control of the entire American government which should be ample time to lock in voter suppression and become a permanent authoritarian regime!

Some better slogans:

United We Stand: For Healthcare, Living Wage and Equality

We the People (put a D logo with a 99% in it)

Vote Democrat for a Middle Class That's Built to Last

Blue Collar? Blue Congress!

Pay Less, Get More: Lower Taxes, Universal Healthcare

Vote for Healthcare, Not the Billionaires

Yeah. I don't consider myself as left as the Chapo people, but we definitely need to be advocating policies in their neighborhood of the spectrum to create some kind of effective gravitational pull to the left.

Those stickers don't make me upset.

Certainly not true and a gross exaggeration.

Loretta Lynch, Democrat and former AG, words may provide some inspiration.

AG Loretta Lynch: Best Response To Terrorism Is Love, Compassion, Unity

Quote:

“We stand with you to say that the good in this world far outweighs the evil, that our common humanity transcends our differences, and that our most effective response to terror and to hatred is compassion, it’s unity, and it’s love,” Lynch said.

Words to live by.

In an ongoing thing where these people are just ****ing the worst at even bull****, a lot of people clowned on Penn for being Penn, but the lesser known half of that byline?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...rew-stein.html

It's this guy!

Seems like a slim chance this ever happens again, at least while trump is alive.

i doubt 5 other posters on this site know of parliament or george but great reference there.

lol no. You're going to have to dig much deeper than that if you want to make claims of exclusive pop culture knowledge.

Are you ever right about anything?

Yeah, the notion of George Clinton as any kind of deep cut is pretty telling. Most of my obscure references ain't appeared on no Muppets soundtrack.

But what if I make a reference to this Cake song which is usually thought of as a Muppets original but is actually a soundtrack cut from a raunchy 60's Italian exploitation flick?

That's nothing, why, Soft Cell didn't even write Tainted Love.

Now you're just begging me to make a Coil reference.

The best/most obscure reference post I've made is one that requires knowledge of libertarian dogma, economist kenneth arrow and the video game skyrim.

Democrats Only Raised 4.3 Million in May Worst Fundraising Since 2003

Quote:

The Democratic National Committee had its worst May since 2003, raising just $4.3 million dollars as it struggles to rebound from a series of election defeats, according to Federal Election Commission data.

The last time May fundraising was lower was in 2003, when the DNC raised just $2.7 million.

In contrast, the Republican National Committee raised more than double, notching $10.8 million in May, a record-high amount for an off-year.

DNC Chairman Tom Perez defended the party's fundraising in April, noting that he had just taken over at the helm of the organization.

In an NBC interview, Perez was asked about his progress on his goal of doubling the DNC's budget from $50 million to $100 million in 2017.

"Well again, I got there on March 1. And so, I was the first to say, 'We have a lot of rebuilding to do,'" Perez told NBC's Hallie Jackson.

What kind of job is Tom Perez doing?

Calls for Tom Perez to Resign

Quote:

On June 23, National Nurses United Director and Bernie Sanders surrogate Roseann Demoro tweeted, “Dems call on Tom Perez to resign as Party continues to push corporate candidates, ignore members.” Calls for DNC Chair Tom Perez to resign have come as direct result from reports that May 2017 was the worst fundraising month for the Democratic National Committee since 2003. The Republican National Committee raised more than two times the amount of money raised by the DNC in the same period. April was almost as bad for Democrats as May; they raised just $4.9 million, the worst performance since 2009. Perez excused April’s poor performance with his recent assumption of the DNC chairmanship, but his inability to inspire support is setting off alarms among party leadership.

In the July 2017 issue of Harper’s Magazine, Andrew Cockburn revealed how Barack Obama and the Democratic establishment orchestrated Tom Perez’s candidacy and Ellison’s defeat in the February 2017 DNC chair race. Their reasoning for these tactics was to prevent the progressive wing of the party from gaining power.

“The former labor secretary, an ardent supporter of Obama’s Trans-Pacific Partnership corporate giveaway, had been personally recruited by the president to run for the DNC chairmanship and ward off an Ellison victory,” wrote Cockburn. “Former members of the Obama administration had confirmed that the president hoped to block an Ellison victory. ‘He wanted to stop the Sanders wing of the party from taking over,’ one such official told me. That was certainly the view of Jeff Weaver, the Vermont senator’s former campaign manager. ‘The sole reason Perez is running is to stop Ellison,’ he told me angrily. ‘He has no platform of his own.”

This is why people like Pelosi can't be shaken from their positions, no matter how badly the party performs. She's a major fundraiser, so the party is at risk of getting stuck in a death spiral where establishment types pander to the wealthy and famous -> fundraising suffers because their actual constituents are angry at them -> establishment types are seen as untouchable because they are the key source of fundraising -> establishment types soldier on in their bubble and try to fix the fundraising issue by pandering more to the wealthy and famous. This is not a recipe for success and these are the people that stand between Trump and his assault on the country. Good luck guys.

Excellent point. However, I don't think we should ignore the quixotic efforts to elect Dems by the DNC in solid Repub districts this year. The insane spending by Dems in these elections for results of questionable value sure seems like a disincentive to raising funds to me. Then we have a Perez/DNC folks chortling about how successful their effors were in just coming close.

Shouldn't basically any generic dem from the coasts be able to fundraise immense amounts of money? I don't get what's so special about pelosi, other than her being a massive bullseye for conservative ad makers

This.

Also, if you're spending eight figures on a goddamn house election that you can't even win, maybe boatloads of cash isn't the most important thing.

How much would it cost to pay whatever missed work/transportation/other costs associated with getting poor people IDs so they can vote? That's gotta be cheaper than millions and millions of dollars on TV ads.

OK, here's some off-the-cuff advice from an "enemy". What the Donkeys should do is split the party.

Right now retail level US politics has the Donkey party, a strange bedfellows coalition of Librulz and centrists, and the Elephant party for the conservatives. Given the centrifugal forces of our winner-take-all elections, the "compromise zone" is necessarily going to be between the two parties... in other words, at the right-center.

The Donkeys should hive off a "Mules Party".

The Mules would be a modern day fusion party for the Librulz currently in the Donkey party. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about Fusion Politics. The Mules bylaws would be set up so that (a) the Mules would need an internal supermajority (say 2/3 or 3/4) to nominate a unique Mule candidate, (b) otherwise, in states where fusion is legal, rules would require the Mules to fusion nominate a non-Elephant party candidate, and otherwise (c) in states where fusion is not legal, rules would require that no Mule candidate be nominated, and instead a non-Elephant party candidate be endorsed.

Fusion is currently legal in eight states: California (POTUS BOWL only, 55 electricians), Connecticut (7), Delaware (3), Idaho (4), Mississippi (6), New York (29), Oregon (7), South Carolina (9), and Vermont (3).

For the current staffers with the Donkeys, nothing much changes. They'll still be the ones sucking the $$$$ out of the unions, and the rich, while grooming our best HS debaters for public office. They'll still be the party which proudly stands for nothing, except spineless compromise with the Elephants. But streamlined... as they'll hive off some currently marginalized deadwood, and off-source the bulk of their flesh-and-blood zombie army of volunteers.

The Mules would be staffed by the currently marginalized Librulz clogging up the Donkey's offices, and some "progressive" congress-creatures with dead-end career paths, like B.Sanders y/o E.Warren. They'll also get to be the party that "Stands for Something (trademark pending)". Most importantly, they'd become the locus for relentlessly squeezing free work hours (doing the most mind-numbing and soul-killing tasks, like phone banking), from all the naive volunteers who wanna "Do Something Real (trademark pending)" for a party that "Stands for Something (trademark pending)".

However, on the retail level of US Politics...

Marketingwise, the reorganized Donkey party can rebrand themselves as a centrist party. That should increase their market penetration into the right-center demographic. They also no longer need be worried about the centrist and center-right demographic of their own party defecting to the Elephants because some addled brained Democratic Socialist forgets to mention the "Democratic" part from time to time.

While, the Mules can effectively retain the Librulz demographic of the Donkey party. This would effectively forestall defections of the third party/protest vote kind from that demographic. This, while increasing the effective Donkey market penetration amount Librulz independents. Especially those independents who would prefer a party which "Stands for Something (trademark pending)" as their Hobson's Choice, and those who would prefer not to dirty their hands supporting war-mongering center-right neo-cons... as the Donkeys tend to nominate.

Just my $0.02.

Didn't Republicans pour money into those races, too?

ST,

As far as the POTUS bowl goes that's essentially having a unified progressive wing vs a unified centrist wing in the primaries and then supporting the winner, no?

Seems like that's what we almost had in 2016 and what we'll probably have in 2020.

No. Not at all.

First, I gotta think by now that it's painfully obvious the Donkeys wildly over value winning POTUS BOWL -vs- all those 1000s of other games on the schedule. In my very superficial opinion, MAGAism is a fluke. Where the Elephants are kicking the Donkeys sorry behind is with ALEC/etc, they're kicking them hard, and they have been for a while now.

The Mules would be a bona fide permanent US political third party. At the grassroots level, schools and sanitation boards up to city councils and county boards, a lot of which are officially non-partisan, they'd run plenty of Mule candidates, and otherwise fusion/endorse other third parties as well Donkeys.

At the state level, and for POTUS BOWL, the formal supermajority requirement would kick in. That, and the fact that US Librulz almost universally love shiz like the old West Wing tv show, and fancy themselves heroic hard-boiled realists when it comes to the inside baseball of making politics, blah/etc, will effectively ensure that except in very unusual circumstances, the Mules would alway fusion/endorse the Donkey.

What would change?

• For today's Donkey Party Librulz, they're effectively a FBS G5 team when it comes to POTUS BOWL. They can "win" by getting that guaranteed NY6 G5 slot (basically a speaking part at the convention, or the VP), but they aren't really eligible for the playoffs (nomination).
  
  However, if they were Mules, they'd have a guaranteed NY6 slot (big league pr). In fact, they'd have their very own NY6 Bowl (the Mule Party convention). And the reorganized Donkey party would necessarily need to court the Mule Party fusion/endorsement at their own convention (still more big league pr)... if for no other reason but to access that Mule Party army of zombie slave labor volunteers.
  
  
• The reorganized Donkey Party can permanently rebrand themselves as centrist. This helps them two ways: (a) a whole lotta sheeple consumer level peeps just love, love, love to self-describe as centrists, and (b) it gives the Donkeys a beachhead to attack the sheeple consumer level peeps that are now center-right Donkeys/3rd-Party/Indep who despise those pointy headed Librulz/SWJs/etc.
  
  
• The Mules give all those Librulz 3rd-Party/Indep/"progressive" Donkeys cover to effectively be an arm of the Donkeys, thus satisfying their craving to be hard-boiled realists who aren't "wasting their vote", with not actually having to be a Donkey, and thus effectively being (in their eyes) a spineless fool whose only real principle is hating the Elephants. There are also a ton of fools in this demographic who just love, love, love saying they are outside of the Donkey-Elephant machine. In other words, this lets them have it both ways... which is what they really desire in life anyways.
  
  This is also why the Mule Party would become the locus of the milking the naive slave labor from the volunteers, while the reorganized Donkey party would remain the locus of milking the unions, and coopting with the rich. That way the naive volunteers can proudly say that their party, the Mules, don't take no stinkin' union or Wall Street $$$$.