The Constitution was amended due to those issues.

On second thought California should split into 60 different states so a person living here has the same voice as someone in Wyoming.

I do think it's fair to think about tyranny of the majority before shelving the current system.

My main aggravation is libtards projecting the current popular vote onto the current election. If the winner was decided that way the entire election would be different, specifically due to turnout. A liberal in Kansas may not vote because they know their vote doesn't matter. A conservative in California may not vote because they know their vote doesn't matter.

My second aggravation is the waste of electronic text on the matter. It will take a constitutional amendment to end the electoral college. And that will never happen because their are not 38 states that want it to end.

Yeah well good thing I never said any of that. My point was that Dems are and remain a competitive party, thus making the thread title dumb and not true.

It's also important to remember that Trump was elected to install exactly the kind of system the Electoral College represents. It's purpose now is to take power away from black voters and give more power to white voters in swing states. Those 1 to 2 million voters who won the popular vote for Clinton matter, and we're going to continue reminding people of these voters for Trump's entire Presidency. It speaks to the general nature of our times--the argument over whether Black Lives Matter, whether pussy grabbing matters, well now we are going to argue over whether All Votes Matter. And the conversation isn't going away, I can promise you that. It's only beginning.

Also it speaks to the fact that Trump and the Republicans do not have the mandate they claim to have. Another reason it will continually be pointed out for the next four years.

I know you what you meant by your post.

You posted raw vote numbers like it mattered for the Presidency.

You posted a completely asinine raw vote total for Senate, when you obviously know that in California there were 2 Democratic candidates running.

The numbers literally mean nothing.

Awval, are you proud of your two votes for Obama?

Compromise requires that you give up something.

Folks in CA agreed to give up some political power to folks in WY when they joined the union.

I suppose further compromise would be necessary to get folks in WY to give up that political power.

So what would you give up in exchange for the removal of the Electoral College?

You obviously don't understand what I meant, that's why I explained it. The posts are just a few posts up, you can go back and read them again if you still don't get it.

Let me check.

Trump/Republicans

[ x ] Presidency

[ x ] House

[ x ] Senate

Yes.

Another very good reason to keep bringing up the fact that Hillary won the popular vote by over a million votes: people keep saying Hillary "failed to connect with voters." She absolutely connected with voters. In fact, she connected with 1 to 2 million more voters than Donald Trump did.

Let's check and see if your protests have done anything?

fyp

You're the type to donk off all your chips on 27. What's your point?

I can handle Trump as POTUS.

I'll deal with the awful fact that the Republicans control the house and senate and stole a Supreme Court nomination that was rightfully Obama's pick.

But this emboldening of Shuffle is too much. Somebody please make it stop.

Maybe a house of legislature where every minority group gets equal representation?

I'm good. Jews need "equal" representation the same as people who live in Alaska.

But seriously then, why not 60 states in California?

What is a minority based on geography?

A farmer in California has more in common with a farmer in Iowa and a computer programmer in SF has more in common with a programmer in Raliegh.

Our political discourse has gotten worse and worse over the last ten years, but it feels like after Tuesday it's like completely dead. These aren't conversations, it's like me and these other guys aren't even speaking the same language. It's just some weird tribal back and forth screaming. I'm embarrassed to be a part of it.

It was worth noting during the democratic primary that the Bern coalition was basically completely unimpressed and (often downright hostile) with anything legislatively that Obama administration did. So Ds try to pass a moderate healthcare reform in the ACA and are brutally battered from the left and the right for doing so for years to come. This kind of outcome isn't sustainable. Also, i think Yglesias' take that Obama's administration really blew it by not having any high profile banker prosecutions, from the public perspective all the rich wallstreet elite got off easy for their role in the great recession, when during the saving and loan crisis and aftermath 100's of execs were prosecuted and went to jail. The public doesn't understand the nuances of dodd-frank and other financial reforms, but they do notice major prosecutions or the lack thereof. Dodd-Frank is also another good example of a moderate win that was savaged as a corrupt failure by both the bern coalition and republicans. Same goes for Obama's foreign policy or his attempt at passing TPP.

Biden vs. Trump: Who you voting for?

How about we get the idea of boycotting Wyoming and not shipping any food or imported goods or all the stuff they need to live there and then we give that up in exchange for equal representation?

I'm having a hard time deciding what is most delicious...

First up... NYT promises to return to the honest reporting of the news.

New York Times: We blew it on Trump

Then there is... you know things are bad when the DNC looks to the Tea Party for an example to follow.

Seething liberals vow revolution in Democratic Party

Perhaps this... political discrimination, Ivy League "cry-ins", and cancelled exams... "best and brightest" tho.

Scenes from the liberal meltdown

I don't think this is the demise of the Democrat Party. Seems like the cognitive dissonance will continue to assert itself.

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And a country boy can survive
Country folks can survive