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04-06-2017 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
Self employed people can deduct their health insurance premiums.
Only in excess of 10% of AGI
04-06-2017 , 05:55 PM
That's for everyone, doesn't apply to self employment income. https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tool.../INF12128.html
04-10-2017 , 04:03 PM
Dems are confirmed Charlie Brown

04-10-2017 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Dems are confirmed Charlie Brown

I ****ing hate everything
04-10-2017 , 04:53 PM
Maybe he doesn't want a liberal justice on the bench.
04-10-2017 , 11:04 PM
She had potential, too. Really ruining a good thing.
04-10-2017 , 11:35 PM
04-11-2017 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Dems are trying to take out Tulsi Gabbard now too. These losers are clueless.

Honestly, watching Hillary and her unholy brood get discredited forever in the last election, ceding to an impotent Trump who makes more and more a fool of himself every day, seems like the best case scenario for us these four years. Just need to make sure all these clowns get buried for good, and see what the real progressives can give us in 2018 and 2020.
Tulsi needs to go. She's a weird Assad apologist.
04-11-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Dems are confirmed Charlie Brown

This makes no sense. The next time the repubs get power after that and there's a filibuster they'll just reduce the threshold back to 50. wtf is this person thinking?
04-11-2017 , 09:53 AM
Can we put together a fund to get Sklansky or somebody to go out and explain the basic ideas of game theory to all Democrats in office. Good lord it's embarassing and the consequences of these tactical mistakes are really starting to pile up.
04-11-2017 , 10:06 AM
you read sklansky's posts in this forum and decided that HE would be the one to teach people about game theory as it relates to politics?

yeaaaa, no.
04-11-2017 , 10:14 AM
Based solely on that interview, I've determined that he is an idiot and needs to be primaried in 2020.
04-11-2017 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Can we put together a fund to get Sklansky or somebody to go out and explain the basic ideas of game theory to all Democrats in office. Good lord it's embarassing and the consequences of these tactical mistakes are really starting to pile up.
Quoting myself from earlier in the thread:

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Originally Posted by Autocratic
Observing the Democrats try to navigate tactical decisions is literally watching someone hem and haw over a prisoner's dilemma where they already know that the other person is going to opt to screw them over.
If someone can't figure out that this is a poor tactical decision, there's no hope for them. The problem is that these complete ****ing idiots don't actually view this as a tactical issue. Their worldview is that politics inherently incorporates fairness, and that over time fairness will win out over the bad guys.

This is probably related to growing up in the direct shadow of WWII and during the Cold War, where the dominant narrative in American society was that good triumphs over evil. They believe this to be inherent. If we are good, we will win. The fact that they are eating **** on a day to day basis is so at odds with How Things Work that they can't even process it.
04-11-2017 , 10:49 AM
The blame falls more directly on Aaron Sorkin
04-11-2017 , 10:50 AM
Imagine what a good episode it would've been for President Bartlett to say no matter how dirty the opposition plays he'll rise above it all
04-11-2017 , 10:59 AM
At this point I think one should at least be suspicious that some Democrats don't really want to get all the things they purport to want, like maybe the possibility of a justice who isn't pro-business.
04-11-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shpanko
This makes no sense. The next time the repubs get power after that and there's a filibuster they'll just reduce the threshold back to 50. wtf is this person thinking?
You guys actually believe him? He is just trying to pretend there is such a huge reason why the 60 vote requirement is in place and the evil Republicans changed it. Hard to take that line and not say it is important to restore.
04-11-2017 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Imagine what a good episode it would've been for President Bartlett to say no matter how dirty the opposition plays he'll rise above it all
The supremes was a pretty great episode iirc.
04-11-2017 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
You guys actually believe him? He is just trying to pretend there is such a huge reason why the 60 vote requirement is in place and the evil Republicans changed it. Hard to take that line and not say it is important to restore.
Yeah the principle to stand on here is that regardless of controling party consensus is important for the highest court. You do feel like Charlie Brown sometimes, and then you need to make it harder to fool you next time, but at some point you don't just burn the constitution because another kid in the class did it first.
04-11-2017 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Dems are confirmed Charlie Brown
slow pony me it seems. I had an issue with social media popping up but figured out how to disable on specific sites.
04-11-2017 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
Yeah the principle to stand on here is that regardless of controling party consensus is important for the highest court. You do feel like Charlie Brown sometimes, and then you need to make it harder to fool you next time, but at some point you don't just burn the constitution because another kid in the class did it first.
I don't think you are necessarily making a bad point about having broader consensus for the supreme court but sometimes you need to show the Republicans what it's like to be on the receiving end so that they can come back to the middle. At this point they rightfully think they can just get away with pretty much anything.
04-11-2017 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
Yeah the principle to stand on here is that regardless of controling party consensus is important for the highest court. You do feel like Charlie Brown sometimes, and then you need to make it harder to fool you next time, but at some point you don't just burn the constitution because another kid in the class did it first.
I think you do. Paper don't stop bullets or unethical, norm destroying, power mad sociopaths.
04-11-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
I think you do. Paper don't stop bullets or unethical, norm destroying, power mad sociopaths.
Yep, that is why the Republicans had no choice but to vote the way they did after the Democrats destroyed the norm on Judges in 2013. Which Senator Markey voted to do at that time.
04-11-2017 , 12:27 PM
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