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Originally Posted by Shuffle
It is looking like Tom Perez and the Clintonites are going to win the DNC chair. Pelosi and Schumer remain firmly in control of the Democratic caucuses in the House and Senate. At this point, the Democratic Party is essentially dead and a non-entity in American politics.
I would be willing to make an Awice type bet that the Dems don't even have a national convention by 2028 at the right odds. This country may very well be headed for civil war.
literally blows my mind how entrenched the teamplayer dems are even after what just happened. like, we are 3 months from HRC's failed campaign and half the constituency is going "yep this guy has been in politics a long time, let's support him" - absolutely tone deaf.
the more progressive segment of america is literally over here going "establishment is fked, give us someone new or we are out" and establishment keeps saying "get pragmatic guys that'll fix it"
same stupid **** that happened w bernie. like if we cut the dems into 2 groups - party voters and progressives - one of them will come home to whatever candidate, one will not. throwing up another HRC, despite how good he is (because don't get me wrong, Tom perez is an immaculately qualified dude for the position), is just going to be disastrous.
Ellison/Buttigieg types are what it is gonna take.