It was based on some website that reported forum size when poker wasn't dead.

are you saying we are posting on a dying forum?

No, Jesus. Don't you get it? There is no degree of acquiescence that will earn any brownie points or curry any favor with the GOP. This dumbass idea that we shouldn't use the filibuster here because they'll take it away in the future is asinine.

Of course they're going to take the filibuster away! Mitch McConnell will destroy everything to get this and all future SCOTUS nominations approved. So this is a fight we're almost certain to lose. But we still have to fight it.

There will be elections in 2018, and we need to be able to say "Vote for us to stop Trump" and have people believe us. That doesn't happen if we roll over on the most important nomination a president makes.

Yea it's such a joke. A good thought experiment to consider is whether Republicans would ever in a million years use this type of logic - let's give them this one so that our future obstruction efforts appear more legitimate. The answer is a resounding no.

It took 1 week for Democrats to forget what happened the last 8 years.

Couldn't disagree with this more. Serious question, were you alive in 2008-2010? Democrats controlled all 3 branches and couldn't get a single thing done except force through a poorly crafted healthcare law that became an enormous white elephant for them. That's how you succeed as a minority party.

"Picking our spots" in 2000-2008 got us the patriot act, the iraq war, partial birth abortion, tax cuts for the rich, the housing crisis, and the longest post WWII recession. Republicans fighting every single action tooth and nail from 2008-2010 were rewarded with 0 meaningful federal progressive advancements, and winning the 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016 elections.

The best advice for democrats is to stop being ****ing rollover pussies and fight for your country.

Anything less than maximum resistance is fighting the last war. No is the only answer. It doesn't matter what the question is.

I don't understand who people think would be alienated by democratic obstructionism and why are those people of any value moving foward.

Are people still pretending they can reason, rationalize and reach EVERYONE?

I haven't been able to watch much of the hearings. Feinstein is capitulating, right? She definitely doesn't alienate her voters by obstruction.

Does she alienate someone else?

Afraid of something else?

Is just a Trumpkin?

I called both of my senators today and asked them to oppose any supreme court nomination. Hope others ITT will do the same, takes like 60 seconds.

I will be calling tomorrow. And every day after.

RESIST

Seems like the liberal media/blogosphere is getting destroyed pretty badly right now. No one that anyone actually listens to is speaking up right now. Well, the left doesn't really have any effective mainstream journalists anyway.

They definitely don't have the well-oiled propaganda machine that the right has.

The GOP just shot the Dems in the head and faced zero consequences but the Dems shouldn't pick up the gun and shoot back because then the GOP might ban the gun from being used and the Dems might need the gun later.

Am I getting the argument correct? What's stopping the GOP from banning the filibuster when the dems try to stop the super evil pick down the line? It's like the cashier who won't give you the last fiver out of their till because then they'd be out of change. That's what it's there for!

Sessions is going to suppress the minority vote and stop Dems from ever winning the House, but Dems will still vote for him because he's very collegial.

One of the most helpful things that could happen now:

A clear message should be sent to every democrat who fails to obstruct that they will lose in primarys. It should not be an idle threat.

It does no good to have a seat as the opposition if the occupant won't oppose. The tea party showed these guys care about losing their jobs and nothing else.

Dems keep waiting for a better spot but getting blinded out.

Another wake up call regarding priorities

The rare good poker analogy.

To be fair, he was pretty good in The 'Burbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPO1EQmj05I

Every Democrat? Including those in swing districts?

How bad did obstructing republicans do in swing districts/states this last cycle?

Agreed.

How much worse can it get? Say the Dems lose a couple such seats. This costs them what? This gains the Republicans what?

Governorships and state legislatures are the level at which that objection can apply imo. For Congress and the Senate, there's really not much further to fall.

Losing the ability to figure out how to turn the swing states + mid west blue in the future by giving up seats is a horribad strategy no matter how this forum paints it.

There are still a few competitive districts. The one close to me is IL-10.

This isn't true at all. Democrats only need to pick up 3 seats to get a majority in the Senate. Every seat matters. Also, it matters even without Democratic control. I would rather Rand Paul was the 50th vote than Chuck Grassley.

EDIT: I'll point out here that the Tea Party might have cost the GOP seats in the Senate (eg Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, Sharron Angle).