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02-20-2019 , 07:04 PM
Muller should be wrapping up his investigation within a week as per anonymous sources on CNN. What will happen? Will we ever see the report? Will Congress do anything if it reveals clear criminal behavior by Trump?


chiefsplanet has some theories on how this might play out:

02-20-2019 , 07:07 PM
Come on, at least spell his name correctly.
02-20-2019 , 07:09 PM
My prediction is Mueller found nothing and we will go through another two years of trying to get Trump's taxes and congress will do nothing to pass laws or do what we actually pay them for.
02-20-2019 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Playlive
My prediction is Mueller found nothing and we will go through another two years of trying to get Trump's taxes and congress will do nothing to pass laws or do what we actually pay them for.
Even if there was literally nothing from this point on, Trump’s campaign manager is a convicted felon, Trump’s closest confidante is under indictment, Trump’s first National Security Adviser is also a convicted felon, as is his deputy campaign manager. Yeah, Mueller sure found nothing there...
02-20-2019 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Come on, at least spell his name correctly.
no u
02-20-2019 , 07:19 PM
Pretty much everyone that's ever worked for Trump will end up convicted or making a plea deal.

But Trump himself is going to weasel out... because that's what he has done for his entire life. Stopping just short of criminal responsibility while other people commit crimes on his behalf (in a moral sense) is instinctual to him.
02-20-2019 , 07:26 PM
Mueller is a lifelong Republican and career FBI law enforcement official. Its pretty much a lock he supports trump and trumpism authoritarianism.

He will find no wrongdoing.
02-20-2019 , 07:27 PM
He wouldn't have indicted Trump's bestie and underlings if that was true.
02-20-2019 , 07:35 PM
What are the chances that the charges get drowned out by the fox news derposphere and Trump tweeting "fake news!" 100x a day?
02-20-2019 , 07:37 PM
How dare u not include a poll
02-20-2019 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Mueller is a lifelong Republican and career FBI law enforcement official. Its pretty much a lock he supports trump and trumpism authoritarianism.

He will find no wrongdoing.
^^This.....

Manaford was a career criminal in the D.C. circuit and a easy fall guy.. Nope I don't expect a pardon for him. Along with R.Stone who I do expect a pardon for as he's too close to Trump.

As the real crimes imo have been committed in the KSA (Hi SA), Flynn is getting away Scott free basically, since it may be or maybe not be proved he tried to sell nuclear secrets to KSA.

The rest were really coffee boys tbh and the bag man's already going down for spilling the beans on Trump. (Yeah I know, but QUOTE this post if anyone else other than Cohen gets more time, except Manaford Ofcourse). And that's a warning shot.

What I've found is that nothing matters because Congress and AOC was the 1st person I ever seen in my life put it so Good. For the love of mother earth, please please let this woman president

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8769381.html




If Jman/Wookie could be so kind as too imbed this video for me, thanks.
02-20-2019 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Mueller is a lifelong Republican and career FBI law enforcement official. Its pretty much a lock he supports trump and trumpism authoritarianism.

He will find no wrongdoing.
We’re all like the turtle who was put into the pot of cold water and didn’t notice it as it slowly rose to a boil. He has already found a ton of evidence of wrongdoing, all of which is public. The public information alone would have been enough to impeach any previous president several times over.
02-20-2019 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
He wouldn't have indicted Trump's bestie and underlings if that was true.
Or there's another way to look at it, these dudes know a lot of stuff on the family, so Ofcourse a dictator would have them ruffled up a bit...
02-20-2019 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Or there's another way to look at it, these dudes know a lot of stuff on the family, so Ofcourse a dictator would have them ruffled up a bit...
If Trump was Il Duce, the FBI would have put the kibosh on this already, and there would have been no reason for Trump lackeys to go to jail.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the Mueller investigation is free from some Trump influence considering those who oversaw Mueller. There's just no evidence Mueller and co. have been kowtowing to Trump and operating under party loyalty.
02-20-2019 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Playlive
My prediction is Mueller found nothing and we will go through another two years of trying to get Trump's taxes and congress will do nothing to pass laws or do what we actually pay them for.
I pay mine to obstruct trump.
02-20-2019 , 09:42 PM
Paying my taxes to see Trump's taxes seems like a fair exchange
02-21-2019 , 01:55 AM
Personally, I think the findings will show that Trump and the Trump campaign were and are assets of a foreign power, either witting or unwitting, and guilty of a conspiracy to defraud the US. Whether or not there are charges - well I have doubts.
02-21-2019 , 02:14 AM
Prediction: The report shows clear and well-substantiated collusion between the Trump campaign, Wikileaks and Moscow. However, no smoking gun link to Trump himself exists, and the report will accuse Trump only of obstruction of justice. The fallout will be like Iran-Contra, where the executive branch gets cosy with a hostile power, it all gets exposed, absolutely nothing happens and a co-conspirator one-term President pardons everyone on the way out the door.
02-21-2019 , 02:17 AM
That sounds about right to me except hopefully not the part where Pence becomes president.
02-21-2019 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Mueller is a lifelong Republican and career FBI law enforcement official. Its pretty much a lock he supports trump and trumpism authoritarianism.

He will find no wrongdoing.
I've been fearing for quite some time now that Mueller will not be the knight in shining armor who saves the day and his report might very well end in a fizzle, not a bang. This is mainly from what I've read about him being a Republican coupled with his belief that a sitting president cannot or should not be indicted. He's a straight up by the book guy who will quietly issue the report with little fanfare and let then let Barr do with it what he wants (most likely conceal as much as possible).

But I still hold out some hope from what I've read that Mueller is also a distinguished decorated vet with impeccable integrity who respects and supports the rule of law, but not Trump or Trumpism authoritarianism. IOW I'd be shocked to learn that Mueller is a "deplorable". I'd be willing to bet Trump is a fake, a crook, a con, and an obstructionist who has broken countless laws not to mention being a potential Russian asset. As someone who's been dedicated to any task given to him I'd be very disappointed if he shoves everything under the rug to save Trump.
02-21-2019 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
That sounds about right to me except hopefully not the part where Pence becomes president.
The President who pardoned everyone was GHWB, not Reagan. So the next President will be a widely-liked Democrat who ushers in a decade of prosperity. But hopefully not actually a Clinton.
02-21-2019 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin J
I've been fearing for quite some time now that Mueller will not be the knight in shining armor who saves the day and his report might very well end in a fizzle, not a bang. This is mainly from what I've read about him being a Republican coupled with his belief that a sitting president cannot or should not be indicted. He's a straight up by the book guy who will quietly issue the report with little fanfare and let then let Barr do with it what he wants (most likely conceal as much as possible).

But I still hold out some hope from what I've read that Mueller is also a distinguished decorated vet with impeccable integrity who respects and supports the rule of law, but not Trump or Trumpism authoritarianism. IOW I'd be shocked to learn that Mueller is a "deplorable". I'd be willing to bet Trump is a fake, a crook, a con, and an obstructionist who has broken countless laws not to mention being a potential Russian asset. As someone who's been dedicated to any task given to him I'd be very disappointed if he shoves everything under the rug to save Trump.
It's both. All the evidence is that he hates Trump, but the report will be like the investigation has been - low key, facts-only. He's not going to protect Trump, but he's not going to specifically go after him, either.
02-21-2019 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
The President who pardoned everyone was GHWB, not Reagan.
Right. GHWB : Raygun :: Pence : Trump? Maybe I'm being dumb.
02-21-2019 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
Right. GHWB : Raygun :: Pence : Trump? Maybe I'm being dumb.
I feel like I'm dissecting this analogy too much, but of course there's a fundamental difference with Iran-Contra in that the wrongdoing took place before Trump was President. So Trump is playing the role of GHWB here in that he was a conspirator while not President, who later became President and then pardoned everyone. There is no Reagan in the analogy.
02-21-2019 , 02:38 AM
Aha, OK. ... I guess I can't complain about something leaving out Reagan. Probably for the best.

      
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