https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ngs/101502702/

http://jalopnik.com/toyota-please-st...ing-1795100473

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...o-crisis-mode/

I probably won't be buying a new Camry for [at least] a few more years, but, (if I were buying right now), there's no way I would buy the 2018 Camry. (I currently own a 1994 Camry with 202,000 miles. It's the best car I have ever owned. It beats the hell out of my previous car - a 1987 Oldsmobile Regency 98 that gave me nothing but problems.) Based on the quality and reliability of my Camry, my plan for my next (probably last) car purchase was to buy a brand new Camry. However, the "new" 2018 Camry sedan gives me pause. The front grille is not visually appealing. It looks like a catfish with its gaping mouth wide open leading into a creepy maw. No man wants to date an ugly woman - or drive a hideous looking car. That's what the "new" Camry resembles - the car equivalent of a catfish - or an ugly woman. (The smallish tires are also a turn off.)

I talked to my friend Donnie who owns a Toyota repair business about the "new look" of the Toyota Camry. I wanted to know if he's hearing displeasure from his customers with this "new" Camry - or if this is more of an "Alan" problem. Donnie was noncommittal as to what his other customers are saying, but he did point out that "all" car manufacturers are moving to large [larger] hideous looking plastic front grilles. I didn't say anything, but I suspect plastic is replacing chrome to reduce weight (and cost) in order to meet Government mandated fuel economy standards.

I'm not going to buy a "boring" car or a car that looks cheap. I'll admit, this is a totally sexist perspective, but next to a woman the most important thing to a man is his car. I suppose there are some folks who look at their car as a piece of machinery that gets them from point A to point B and otherwise they could care less. They don't care whether their car is visually appealing or not. Next to your house and your spouse, your car is a reflection of yourself. Toyota has a longstanding reputation for quality, reliability, and cars that are stylish and visually appealing. That's how they got to be the world's second largest car manufacturer - by making good products that car buyers love. Now they seem to be risking all that in favor of cars that will appeal to younger millennial car buyers.

Well, it's fine if weighed-down-with-college-debt millennials like the "new" Camry. I don't.

Fiat

I think you need to pimp your ride.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/****ty_Car_Mods/

I think the 2018 Camry looks nice for a Toyota Camry.

You say your car is important to your self image but you drive a 1994 Camry?

"I want a car that says 'I'm old and a total ****ing cheapskate'"

TBF I drive a 2006 accord for exactly those reasons

If a car is a reflection of the owner, then everyone who owns a specific make/model shares some quality.

That cannot be true.

Yeah I'm going to be of the thought that the look of a car can't be that important if the argument involves a Camry. People buy Camry's because they are affordable and dependable. How they look is not really a consideration.

I don't recall ever seeing a Camry and going "Wow that is a fine looking automobile".

Sounds to me like you like camrys for affordability and dependability. The looks will grow on you and probably shouldn't factor into the situation. Nobody has ever judged you positively because they thought you were driving a nice looking Camry.

Take a look at Accords and see if those are more appealing. Same or better reliability.

Is this thread about one model of one make changing style ?

I had same issue 2 years ago and ended up getting an Avalon which had same features as a fully loaded Camry but with less aggressive styling and better interior finish.

The Toyota I owned which wouldn't stop accelerating even after I took my foot off the gas was anything but boring.

My wife and I drove 1993 and 1994 Camrys when we got married in 2001 and were both gutted when we traded them in a few years later for a minivan and SUV due to our growing family. I'm in the market for a new SUV now and everything is so visually underwhelming due to being designed to be utilitarian. Welcome to the new normal.

how has this thread not been moved to BBV yet?

Maybe because it's the best thread Alan ever created in politics?

Plus it's kind of funny imagining Alan roaming 2+2 looking for this thread that he just knows he created somewhere.

This. WTF?

Own a 2011 Camry. It's great. Lol at caring what your car looks like unless you're rich.

Had a '93 Camry for a long time, thing was the TRUTH, and kind of boring.

I was just about to start this same thread.

No boring. No boring. You're the boring.