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09-14-2015 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wishingwell
People need to get rid of the idea that a falling population is bad for a country. It is a very good thing. The planet's resource's are strained. A falling population relieves this strain.
nah it's the complete opposite.

Rich countries providing great lives for fewer people is massive disaster because people living great lives is a really really good thing and the number should be rising. It's what we're aiming for.

The ressource stuff is just tragedy of the commons stuff and can be solved by a bit of sensible policies (raising taxes of some things mainly). It's not a reason to have fewer people live well.
09-14-2015 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by daca
nah it's the complete opposite.

Rich countries providing great lives for fewer people is massive disaster because people living great lives is a really really good thing and the number should be rising. It's what we're aiming for.

The ressource stuff is just tragedy of the commons stuff and can be solved by a bit of sensible policies (raising taxes of some things mainly). It's not a reason to have fewer people live well.
Yeah. And not only does Syrians moving to Germany not lead to an increase in the world population, it almost certainly lowers it as their birth rates will fall.
09-14-2015 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wishingwell
People need to get rid of the idea that a falling population is bad for a country. It is a very good thing. The planet's resource's are strained. A falling population relieves this strain.
Lol, a country having a falling population via low birth rate is a ****ing disaster because of resource strangulation as the country ages.

Also it's a myth there is a resource abundance problem. There is a resource allocation problem. There is more than enough of everything to go around.
09-14-2015 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Lol, a country having a falling population via low birth rate is a ****ing disaster because of resource strangulation as the country ages.

Also it's a myth there is a resource abundance problem. There is a resource allocation problem. There is more than enough of everything to go around.
There's more than enough wheat, rice, corn, cows, pigs, chickens, oil and coal - but there's not more than enough of everything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction
09-14-2015 , 07:49 PM
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09-15-2015 , 12:29 AM
I hope you're not American.
09-15-2015 , 12:49 AM
That's your best response?
09-15-2015 , 12:50 AM
Man the "where are the women and children?" thing has been making the rounds in the derposphere.
09-15-2015 , 12:52 AM
Give the Syrians credit where credit is due. Conspiraring to kill hundreds of thousands of their own in order to flee as refugees but actually as Trojan horse invaders to Europe and mess up Europe's culture is a pretty audacious plan.
09-15-2015 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Themaestrony
That's your best response?
Definitely embarrassing to have Euros welcoming huddled masses and hear Americans talk like that.
09-15-2015 , 01:31 AM
Why? When will it end? Population in Syria in 1960 was 4.5 million. Today it is 22.9 million, why don't we take over the middle east and make Syria, Afganistan, and Iraq new States. It would make just as much sense.

What is really sick is you say someone un-American and deserves to leave because he does not need to look good or be right, does not share your views, and is not as self-righteous as you.

Why don't they send all refugees of the world to Germany as an experiment? 100 million a year.

I feel much better if we send 1 million illegal and legal immigrants to Iraq.

Last edited by steelhouse; 09-15-2015 at 01:39 AM.
09-15-2015 , 01:37 AM
If he is American he doesn't need to leave or look good or be right, but imo accepting refugees is American as apple pie and the guy and flag in your avatar are a terrible match.

I'm not going to apologize for expecting America to be good and brave and not fearful and selfish.
09-15-2015 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
I feel much better if we send 1 million illegal and legal immigrants to Iraq.
I'd feel much better if we took a million tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
09-15-2015 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GEORGEeffing
I had always hoped that this land might become a safe and agreeable asylum to the virtuous and persecuted part of mankind, to whatever nation they might belong.
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Originally Posted by WASHINGTON
The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations and Religions; whom we shall welcome to a participation of all our rights and privileges, if by decency and propriety of conduct they appear to merit the enjoyment.
nsfw

09-15-2015 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
... why don't we take over the middle east and make ... and Iraq new States.
lol
09-15-2015 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Themaestrony
75% of these "refugees" are men between 18-40 years old. They're going to Europe for work and freebies from the liberal governments. Why not keep the women and children in refugee camps in turkey and train these men to fight for their country? Imagine if all the men in England fled their during world war 2. Hitler would have never been defeated. Call it what it is: an Islamic invasion of Europe.
Given Europe and America created ISIS, giving the Syrians some space to flee from them is a ****ing bargain considering what we actually owe them.

I'd happily parachute you into Syria to fight ISIS, if you want?
09-15-2015 , 08:57 AM
Let's create an exchange program. Every person who says the refugees should fight gets a rifle, a Syrian passport and a one way trip through turkey. A refugee gets their citizenship.
09-15-2015 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Themaestrony
Imagine if all the men in England fled their during world war 2. Hitler would have never been defeated.
How ignorant does one need to be to think England during WWII is in any way comparable to Syria now?
09-15-2015 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Does anyone actually have any ideas on what to do in Syria? It's not surprising Russia seek to support Assad but what is the West supposed to do?
Absolutely not be involved. The Syrian army are mostly Sunni fighting together with other religions for Syria not Assad exactly against Sunni extremists, since the alternative is much worse.
09-15-2015 , 12:24 PM
Suppose a country had a population of 5 million in 1950 but has 100 million today and is growing 10 million a year. This country wants to send 10 million refugees and immigrants a year to the United States. Where will it end? They send 10 million. The population grows to 110 million and they send 10 million. The population grows to 110 million and they send 10 million. The population grows to 110 million and they send 10 million. The population grows to 110 million and they send 10 million. The population grows to 110 million and they send 10 million. The population grows to 110 million and they send 10 million. The population grows to 110 million and they send 10 million.

Why don't we change the country to a liberal government of high taxes, corruption, lies, and the population will stop growing and stay at 100 million.
09-15-2015 , 12:34 PM
If that's your premise, then the "West" should offer "Syria not Assad" an alternative to fight off "Sunni extremists."

Nobody, except maybe the Russians and ISIS, wants the conflicts to continue.
09-15-2015 , 12:40 PM
Russia wants Isis defeated a lot more than it wants fighting and arms sales.
09-15-2015 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Russia wants Isis defeated a lot more than it wants fighting and arms sales.

They want Assad in power anyway. Aren't Assad and ISIS fighting common enemies?
09-15-2015 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Russia wants Isis defeated a lot more than it wants fighting and arms sales.
And you know this how?
09-15-2015 , 01:10 PM
They're reportedly moving Russian-operated tanks and other heavy equipment to Syria, with the government's approval. Hard to imagine what they're going to do with them other than stomp ISIS.

      
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