You're going to have to be more specific on who "these" people are, because Dominionists and fundamentalist crazy Jews fit this category too.

So the mounting violence resulting from the Sunni/Shia split has nothing to do with religion but something something evil Westerners? I don't understand why it is obvious that the Westboro brand of Christianity can be readily recognized as problematic but pointing out that Islamic extremists is an issue is misguided.

I don't think anyone denies that extremism is an issue. I just object to it being used as an excuse to smear whole sectors of the population.

Good article on this in huffpo


"Whosoever killeth a human being... " says the Qur'an, in the 32nd verse of its fifth chapter, "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."


"Is it even possible to stop two nutjobs from going online and radicalising themselves and then going out to kill someone on the street with kitchen knives?" an exasperated official told me yesterday morning. "How do you prevent that?"


"The process of violent radicalisation has little to do with religious practice." Read the classified briefing note prepared by the MI5's Behaviourial Science Unit in June 2008. "Far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly," reported the Guardian's Alan Travis, who obtained a copy of the document. "Very few have been brought up in strongly religious households...there is evidence that a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehd...?utm_hp_ref=uk

Exactly. A more apt analogy wrt to Westboro would be seeing their protest on TV and then condemning every Christian for it.

Richard Dawkins killing it on twitter.

I for one am shocked this wasn't a crew of atheists and agnostics
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22294720

Man if your point is LOL religion I'm with you but there's a whole forum for that.

Ted Kazynski was an atheist. There are nutjobs of all sorts.

Kedu, here is a tip bud.

If you are trying to paint two murderers as representative of all Muslims citing a poll that show 30-40% agreeing with some abstract that could be similar to that attack just makes you look like a ****ing idiot.

No need to thank me bro, happy to help.

It also becomes an obvious self fulfilling prophesy of a feedback group where attacking random Muslims for the actions of a couple of them makes those random Muslims become more isolated from the wider community. In effect the bigotry causes extremism which cases bigotry etc.

I think the EDL might have some good ideas to solve this problem - lets work out who all the EDL members are and then deport them. We must have some islands somewhere in the pacific that are uninhabited where we can park them.

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Yea but I think the nutjob distribution amongst religious radicals is more heavily represented

Wow, that's profound. I think the issue is the % of nutjobs in a given group though, not if there is at least a single member in all groups.

Phil,
Sharia law isn't abstract. 30% of Muslims in England want it. These 30% are bat**** crazy. Thanks for the tips!

If you polled white people in england tomorrow what % would want to deport hard working innocent citizens based on their religious beliefs? That's pretty bat**** and evil to me.

I have no idea what % would deport all Muslims? You're gonna let a few extremist EDL members represent all the white people in england? Bigots gonna bigot. The 30% isn't concerning to you?

No but I tend not to lose my **** when a minority of a minority wants some change in the law that will never happen. Are you really scared of Shariah coming to the UK?

Tom is a muslim in cheap clothing he be trying to lull you into a false sense of security

It was a question but that's a fair point. I shouldn't let the EDL minority tarnish the reputation of the majority of fair minded white UKers. My point really was that idgaf what people tell pollsters sharia law is concerning to the extent that deporting all muslim is concerning ie I'm not concerned at all that there's the remotest chance of either actually happening.

An element of Sharia law exists in the UK. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16522447

There may be some issues with it but its not a problem in principle or a huge deal.

As usual the boneheads are taking it at its most extreme and claiming the extreme as the norm.

Chez beat me to the punch, but Britain already has religious courts for Jews and Muslims in some areas. You afraid of Sharia in Britain? It is already here.

Also lol at one person at the same time thinking its dumb to claim the EDL, Daily Mail, Richard Dawkins (who he praised) and other Islamophobes cannot be used to represent white Brits but it is perfectly fine to use a minority of British Muslims to represent all British Muslims.

I'm glad Rob Schneider is posting here.

"In most interpretations of sharia, conversion by Muslims to other religions or becoming non-religious, is strictly forbidden and is termed apostasy.[132] Many Islamic countries legally impose capital punishment as the penalty for apostasy."

"Homosexual sex is illegal under most interpretations of sharia law, though the prescribed penalties differ from one school of jurisprudence to another. For example, these Muslim-majority countries may impose the death penalty for acts perceived as sodomy and homosexual activities: Iran,[201] Nigeria,[202] Saudi Arabia,[203] Somalia"

This isn't going to happen in England anytime soon but if Muslims had their way it would already be there. Sharia is idiotic and barbaric. It's fascinating that the American left is adamant in defending a religion that considers homosexuality a capital offense.

Obv my comment about the EDL not representing the majority was tongue in cheek. You aspy?

100% false, not even your ******ed poll shows this.

Hey, person who is acting like a ****tard but may or may not be one, your own earlier post said thirty percent would prefer Sharia to British law so perhaps get the **** out with this "if Muslims had their way it would already be here" bigotry bull****.

Gah, under Sharia law I would be executed for having the slower pony