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05-23-2013 , 03:40 PM

#101

rjoefish

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Don't worry wookie, I changed my graph to the non military one

05-23-2013 , 03:41 PM

#102

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

Lol polls aside no one has a problem condemning individuals who advocate harming innocents.

Obviously not but Kedu is trying to condemn every Muslim because of it.

05-23-2013 , 03:42 PM

#103

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30 minutes before police show up in central London, how can that happen?

05-23-2013 , 03:44 PM

#104

tomdemaine

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

Obviously not but Kedu is trying to condemn every Muslim because of it.

Cos bigots gonna bigot.

05-23-2013 , 03:46 PM

#105

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

but bigots gonna bigot yo

Lol @ refuting with a poll of American Muslims. They're a completely different demographic.

Quote:

Obviously not but Kedu is trying to condemn every Muslim because of it.

Yep that's it. I'm condemning 100% of muslims.

05-23-2013 , 03:47 PM

#106

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Originally Posted by martymc1

30 minutes before police show up in central London, how can that happen?

I read it was 15 minutes for an armed response team (swat?) to show up. I suppose it's because they're not just roaming around and have to come from some central location? Not sure where they funny looking guys with crossing guards vests were at though.

05-23-2013 , 03:48 PM

#107

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kedu

Lol @ refuting with a poll of American Muslims. They're a completely different demographic.

Yep that's it. I'm condemning 100% of muslims.

My bad, change it just to British Muslims.

05-23-2013 , 03:49 PM

#108

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kedu

Lol @ refuting with a poll of American Muslims. They're a completely different demographic.

Yep that's it. I'm condemning 100% of muslims.

You missed

the point.

05-23-2013 , 03:53 PM

#109

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Nevermind took too long.

05-23-2013 , 03:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

My bad, change it just to British Muslims.

That is what we're talking about here right? The fact that you think the profile of a Muslim in the United States is the same as those immigrating to Europe makes it obvious you're lost on this issue.

05-23-2013 , 03:56 PM

#111

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The point was that other religions are just as okay, if not even more so, with violent actions against civilians.

But I'm glad you're admitting that you're an outright bigot, even if it is just one country's worth of religious followers.

05-23-2013 , 04:01 PM

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could have been 15mins, just based my post off some early soundbites.

It happened outside the Army base ffs, don't/couldn't they have cctv monitoring **** with people semi-ready to react? not like they didn't already know they were are target from loons like the 2 murderers and some Irish wackos.

05-23-2013 , 04:03 PM

#113

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Odd given those stats that the vast majority of violence from individuals/small groups against civilians in recent years have been perpetrated by muslims against other muslims.

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response time was 9 mins, armed response was 15 mins.

05-23-2013 , 04:03 PM

#114

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Originally Posted by Kedu

You should probably do some reading on the subject. Britain does have an extremist problem or more of one than the US, it doesn't have a "Muslim" problem at all.

05-23-2013 , 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BAIDS

Odd given those stats that the vast majority of violence from individuals/small groups against civilians in recent years have been perpetrated by muslims against other muslims.

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response time was 9 mins, armed response was 15 mins.

I'm assuming this is because whatever metric you're looking at is counting Iraq/Afghanistan?

05-23-2013 , 04:15 PM

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I dont hear about jews detonating bombs in local markets or synagogues every few days, which is odd since they are apparently twice as likely to think it's ok to do so compared with muslims.

05-23-2013 , 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

I can't imagine you think relatively secular Muslims in the United states are comps for Muslims in Europe/rest of the world. On every single issue U.S. Muslims are less radical.
http://www.people-press.org/files/20...can-report.pdf

"In this respect, Muslim Americans differ from many of their counterparts in the Muslim world and are similar to U.S. Christians"

But yeah continue to use the .01% U.S. Muslims as a barometer for the religion when data is available on the other 99.999%. Don't let facts get in the way.

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05-23-2013 , 04:20 PM

#118

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BAIDS

I dont hear about jews detonating bombs in local markets or synagogues every few days, which is odd since they are apparently twice as likely to think it's ok to do so compared with muslims.

It's almost as if there were factors other than religion involved in those acts...

05-23-2013 , 04:23 PM

#119

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I don't even know what argument Kedu is making. Some British Muslims hold extremist views, therefore - ????

05-23-2013 , 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BAIDS

I dont hear about jews detonating bombs in local markets or synagogues every few days, which is odd since they are apparently twice as likely to think it's ok to do so compared with muslims.

IRA Catholics and pubs though amirite?

Oh and this was US Muslims, how many terror attacks have involved US born and brought up Muslims.

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05-23-2013 , 04:23 PM

#121

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i think it has something to do with the relatively large number of imams (compared with rabbis/vicars/priests etc) telling kids that their duty to allah is to blow themselves up in a public place which is frequented by muslims of the other stripe (or, even better, westerners, but thats harder to achieve)

05-23-2013 , 04:30 PM

#122

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomdemaine

It's almost as if there were factors other than religion involved in those acts...

Hummmmm you could be onto something.

05-23-2013 , 04:31 PM

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lol gtf.

that is outright bollocks.

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revenge for the crusades BAIDS?

lol piss off.

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05-23-2013 , 04:34 PM

#124

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But yeah continue to absolutely miss the entire point of that graph.

05-23-2013 , 04:36 PM

#125

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radical islam confirmed western civilisations fault

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