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05-25-2013 , 06:42 PM

#201

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Possibly related, maybe not:

French Soldier Stabbed In The Neck In Paris

invading countries and then inviting people in those countries to live in your country. maybe not a good idea?

05-25-2013 , 10:06 PM

#202

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wtf is going on in this thread?

05-26-2013 , 03:08 AM

#203

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Originally Posted by Jeedz

The intention behind them and the timing. This sort of thing happens yet usually it wouldn't make the news, those three newspapers are known for stoking xenophobic and anti immigrant flames and they are using this story to push the high levels of anti-muslim bigotry and racial tension even further. All of the stories I've seen on the topic have disabled the comment sections (legal issues) which they only do when they expect serious controversy, a sign that they know how the public will react and are doing it for a reason.

Also, contrast this with the fact that the wave of anti-muslim attacks (including petrol bombs and a grenade) haven't been reported at all at these very same sources yet are front page news at the BBC, it tells you something.

Indeed. There was a shocking murder of a Muslim man of seventy-five walking home from his mosque a few weeks ago. This followed threats to the man's son signed from the EDL some months ago. The police are even denying that this murder was racially motivated (they just say they haven't ruled it out lol) and of course it's of no interest to the politicians.

05-26-2013 , 04:10 AM

#204

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

Ugh, Telegraph went down in my opinion. Sun and Mail cannot sink lower.

Just because it's bigger doesn't mean it's better. The Telegaph is a ghastly xenophobic piece of crap with a strong editorial bias towards anti-immigrant stories. Sadly, my parents read it cover-to-cover every ****ing day.

05-27-2013 , 07:18 PM

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Mosques being attacked left and right, even been an attack here in Belfast.

Why don't they go home? Same sentiment the Irish faced from the bigot ****s.

Can't believe people itt were advocating this ****, haven't half let themselves down.

05-28-2013 , 01:21 AM

#206

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Originally Posted by martymc1

Most people can't just just pick up their stuff and move from a country their grandparents migrated to, to somewhere that they might have little connection with, plus their home country is probably unsuitable to live in anyway, plus they would have lives, jobs, businesses, communities and families left behind.

On top of that, most wouldn't want to, even if offered money or whatever, and they shouldn't have to just to please the bigoted contingent if the British people.

05-28-2013 , 06:43 AM

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Faith Matters, which monitors anti-Muslim hatred, said the number of incidents in the past six days had risen to 193, including ten assaults on mosques. The figure compares to a total of 642 incidents in the previous 12 months – meaning the last week has seen a 15-fold increase on last year’s average of 12 attacks per week.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-8633594.html
Whole article is pretty grim reading really

05-28-2013 , 07:01 AM

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Went to a Sunday Service at a CoE church last Sunday (not a Christian but one of my friends worked there and I was visting him so thought I'd go along).

Woolwich murder was brought up, but I was a little shocked at how it was described during the sermon as "murder by two Muslims". Wanted to ask him if he considered Anders Breivik a Christian!

05-28-2013 , 07:04 AM

#209

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Originally Posted by lol i play 2NL

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-8633594.html
Whole article is pretty grim reading really

This is what happens when the politicians hype these things up ; all the crazies get encouraged and crawl out of the woodwork.

05-28-2013 , 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lol i play 2NL

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-8633594.html
Whole article is pretty grim reading really

Wow at the policy recommendations section of that article.

05-28-2013 , 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

Wow at the policy recommendations section of that article.

In regards to how overreaching they are or...?

05-28-2013 , 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

Indeed. There was a shocking murder of a Muslim man of seventy-five walking home from his mosque a few weeks ago. This followed threats to the man's son signed from the EDL some months ago. The police are even denying that this murder was racially motivated (they just say they haven't ruled it out lol) and of course it's of no interest to the politicians.

From the Independent article posted above:

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Police have arrested two people after petrol bombs were hurled at a Grimsby mosque.

Despite an increased police presence in the area following an attack on the complex three days ago, several missiles were thrown at the Grimsby Islamic Cultural Centre, which is part of a complex including a mosque.

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A Humberside Police spokeswoman said: “It is too early to speculate why the fire was started, however anyone with any information who could assist officers as part of the investigation are urged to call the Humberside Police non-emergency number 10

Are they trolling everyone or do they have some sort of agenda? This is ridiculous. A Muslim murders a non-Muslim (not this incident, just any murder) and terrorism will be the first explanation. Muslims and mosques are attacked during one of the worst periods of racial tension since 2005 and 'it's too early to speculate'.

Nice.

05-28-2013 , 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeedz

In regards to how overreaching they are or...?

Except for the vague "stop extremist recruiting" one, they're all shockingly oppressive and discussed as if they were perfectly reasonable things to do.

05-28-2013 , 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

Except for the vague "stop extremist recruiting" one, they're all shockingly oppressive and discussed as if they were perfectly reasonable things to do.

Since 9/11 and 7/7 our civil rights and liberties have been eroded ridiculously in this regard, somehow I doubt the public recognises or even cares about any further erosions. In fact, people in this country often complain about ''human rights'' because their favourite tabloid is constantly telling them that some terrorist is avoiding deportation thanks to those human rights.

05-28-2013 , 04:22 PM

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3 inmates (just so happen to be Muslim) attack some prison officers and break a jaw and whatever, is being investigate by anti-terrorism branch ...national news yawn.

Bbc, British msm cannot hide their right wing tendencies.

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Good news story....some people at mosque brought out tea and biscuits to the edl wankers protesting outside.

Bet their tiny minds were just blown away.

05-28-2013 , 05:16 PM

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"it's laced with anthrax innit"

Anyway, I'm starting to question how much the msm and politicians are to blame, we can't deny that the public (or sections of it)i has a strong appetite for reactionary views and bigotry/xenophobia/racism. Sure the tabloids are responsible for a lot of misinformation and hate campaigns, but it's not like they created the problems.

05-28-2013 , 05:25 PM

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An article Glenn Greenwald will never write: The EDL is blow back for X.

05-28-2013 , 05:39 PM

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Edl is just another strand of the national front/bnp.

Saying their creation is the result of anything other than internal differences among the meat heads would be a lie.

06-01-2013 , 12:12 PM

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Bnp/edl scum trying to march in London but cannot because unite against fascism blocked the roads.

Lol.

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Some udl ****wits here in belfast on the streets today, basically a loyalist rent a mob and they wanted to protest outside an Islamic community center.

Not sure if they were allowed or not (knowing the cops here, everything went swimmingly well for the scum).

Nazi ****s.

07-12-2013 , 11:40 AM

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Today Lee Rigby was buried.

Also, there was a bomb outside a mosque.

EDL EDL EDL!!!

07-12-2013 , 02:53 PM

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There have been two bombs outside that same mosque in the past couple weeks. No one hurt yet though.

07-12-2013 , 09:28 PM

#222

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No disrespect to the Rigby family, but I felt a little sorry for the families of other servicemen killed on active duty who get a small fraction of the coverage that Lee's funeral did today.

I dunno, maybe I felt that it cheapened their sacrifice somewhat.

07-13-2013 , 01:57 PM

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Funeral used for propaganda.

No real surprise.

07-14-2013 , 04:09 AM

#224

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Originally Posted by martymc1

Funeral used for propaganda.

No real surprise.

And there was another mosque attack.

"Police And Community Leaders Appeal For Calm After Nail Bomb Attack On Mosque In Tipton"

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...&utm_hp_ref=uk

07-14-2013 , 06:15 AM

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Just read about the 75 year old that was stabbed and stamped to death on his way home from the Mosque in April.

Nothing mentioned about hate crimes or terror.

Bet you're all surprised.

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