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Old 10-12-2011, 10:30 AM   #61
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Re: And so it begins (Iran - US precursors to war)

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Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican and chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, called carrying out such a scheme an "act of war" five times during a five-minute CNN interview.

While outlining several other steps that Washington may take, he insisted that no options be ruled out.

"We should not be ... automatically saying we're not going to have military action," King said Tuesday night, saying that this "flagrant and notorious" alleged plot brought already testy relations between the United States and Iran to a "very precipitous level."

"Everything should be left on the table when you are talking about a potential attack (in) the United States, an act of war."
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:52 AM   #62
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That guys a frothing idiot
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:15 PM   #63
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This is a grand old american tradition before midterm elections. of course, this is obamas third try to get a terrorist related bounce...and so poorly executed...
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:36 PM   #64
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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/11...di-ambassador/

Some pretty detailed info on the evidence.

My read is that everyone played this bumbling Iranian American guy pretty hard, and the rest of the money was never going to come. They were going to use him as collateral to kill the Saudi target, and then not pay and let the "drug dealer" do whatever he was going to do. The Iranian American is probably lucky that it was just an undercover fed.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:56 PM   #65
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Poor Iranians, I sympathize with them. Mostly a bunch of everyday people caught in the middle of a governmental/religious dick wagging contest.

It's like that fruit in Florida who wanted to burn those Qur'ans. One act by some radical ******* and millions of people are automatically implicated.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:01 PM   #66
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So there is no direct evidence that the Iranian government is involved, just that this Shakuri guy was Arbabsiar's contact in Iran and Shakuri is in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (that has 125,000 personnel.)

Clearly an act of war. Sanction the **** out of Iran. Get the drones loaded.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:50 PM   #67
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Reading the comments section on the CNN articles, is just.. man. It just makes me want to move to Costa Rica and avoid any contact with the internet or news for the rest of my life.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:51 PM   #68
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Pretty sad state of affairs when Iranian statements seem more accurate than the rhetoric being thrown around by US politicians.

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Ali Larijani, Iran's speaker of parliament, railed against Washington.

"The Americans acted unprofessionally in their childish play against Iran," he said. "The Americans want to divert attention from their own domestic problems as well as the awakening of the Muslim world by initiating a stupid mischief which apparently is quite complicated."

Iran Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi called the plot "an amateurish scenario" and told the news agency ISNA there have been similar allegations over the past few decades.
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:01 PM   #69
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This is definentely hyping some sort of attack on Iran. Obama can say Iran caused the Recession and is in bed with Wall Street. Those dumb Occupy Wall Street people would probably believe him and the rest of the country will follow
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:07 PM   #70
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So.. is it true or not...?

I don't know who to believe
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:36 PM   #71
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so some rich guys allegedly want to kill another rich guy and some other rich guys are upset?
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:43 PM   #72
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This plot is beyond stupid, to blame the entire country of Iran and create more sanctions is wrong. Why would they just not use their own agents in their version of our CIA??? The media is a really a joke here.
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:58 PM   #73
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If the US government did want to create some bull**** fake flag scenario, then wouldn't they choose a far more believable plot to accuse Iran of? If you're in a meeting to create a false-flag attack, then would you really be suggesting such a confusing, complicated and far-fetched plot, or would you suggest something much more in keeping with previous Iranian behaviour and policy? There's nearly no way some CIA agent said, I know the best and most believable way to frame them, lets link them to Mexican drug cartels and develop a plan in which they were going to blow up the Saudi Ambassador in Washington. Unless they are on some sick 25th level I know that they know that I know that they know type ****, there is no way that would ever have happened.

From the scant information we have to go on at the moment, the likely answers are (in no order): an independent Iranian plot with little or no link to the regime (maybe someone with some kind of grudge, maybe a dissident looking to spark a clash to help bring down the regime or something), or a rogue element of the IRGC looking to make a power play or use the situation for their own (unknown as yet) ends. This being sanctioned by the regimes leadership seems unlikely (though there are profound internal clashes within the regime at the moment, and a deep sense of insecurity), and it seems even less likely that it is a "flase flag".
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This is a grand old american tradition before midterm elections. of course, this is obamas third try to get a terrorist related bounce...and so poorly executed...
You have any evidence to back up this conspiracy theory?
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:02 PM   #75
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I for one am surprised to have had it conclusively proved to me in this thread that the longstanding policy of killing Osama bin Laden, an objective completed by Obama, was nothing but a cynical attempt to buy votes at the next election.
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