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Old 10-13-2011, 10:07 AM   #101
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If China droned down individuals it considered a threat to them here in the U.S. without our consent, would that be a violation of our sovergeinty?
The key is "without our consent."
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:07 AM   #102
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:09 AM   #103
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Right because they have a choice lolz....

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Old 10-13-2011, 10:09 AM   #104
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The key is "without our consent."

Do all the countries we bomb consent?
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:10 AM   #105
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Did the Bin Laden raid violate Pakistan's sovereignty? iirc their government didnt know about it.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:23 AM   #106
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Did the Bin Laden raid violate Pakistan's sovereignty? iirc their government didnt know about it.
It's only "LAWFULL" when the good old US of A does it. If china decided to bomb Taiwanese, Tibetan, or any other "terrorists then the American government would rise up in some serious moral indignation about the inhumanity of the strikes and how China is unlawfully bombing other countries.

America is like the 6th sense now......you see terrorists EVERYWHERE!
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:28 AM   #107
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:34 AM   #108
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It's only "LAWFULL" when the good old US of A does it. If china decided to bomb Taiwanese, Tibetan, or any other "terrorists then the American government would rise up in some serious moral indignation about the inhumanity of the strikes and how China is unlawfully bombing other countries.

America is like the 6th sense now......you see terrorists EVERYWHERE!

This is the problem with the war on terrorism. It's like the war on drugs - unless there is a policy change and the government basically decides to end them, they will never end. Because there are always going to be drugs and people using them, and there are always going to be people that hate the U.S.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:39 AM   #109
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It's only "LAWFULL" when the good old US of A does it. If china decided to bomb Taiwanese, Tibetan, or any other "terrorists then the American government would rise up in some serious moral indignation about the inhumanity of the strikes and how China is unlawfully bombing other countries.

America is like the 6th sense now......you see terrorists EVERYWHERE!
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:50 AM   #110
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So true

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This is the problem with the war on terrorism. It's like the war on drugs - unless there is a policy change and the government basically decides to end them, they will never end. Because there are always going to be drugs and people using them, and there are always going to be people that hate the U.S.
And since 9/11 the amount of Muslims that hate America has grown
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:56 AM   #111
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They really liked us before, tho.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:01 AM   #112
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Not only that, but the amount of AMERICANS that hate the U.S. has grown as well.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:11 AM   #113
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They really liked us before, tho.

You can't really blame them... After all the CIA overthrough the democratically elected govt of Iran and installed the Shah, eventually leading to the Islamic revolution in Iran. At which point we then supported Saddam while still selling weapons to both sides. Of course, we then decided we no longer approved of Saddam after he invaded Kuwait (after we told him we would stay out of it) and so then we had to bring Iraq freedom and democracy after 9/11. All the while we've support some of the most repressive un-Democratic regimes in the region.

I can't for the life of my understand why they have a problem with us.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:15 AM   #114
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[flywf]They hate us for our freedom.[/flywf]
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:25 AM   #115
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Sometimes I read a thread in this forum that depresses the **** out of me but then I remember none of you vote and feel better.
I get this feeling a lot. Probably not for the same reasons.

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Old 10-13-2011, 11:31 AM   #116
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The key is "without our consent."
Yeah, the level of "consent" you're referring to is approximately equivalent to amount of consent local store owners give for "protection services" from the mafia. What is Yemen going to do, refuse and head to their bomb shelters as we leapfrog Yemen to the top of the "#1 Serious and Imminent Threat to America's freedom(!)" list ahead of AAA? Even if you believe that Yemen's consent was genuine and not coherced, do you think it would have stopped us if they had said, "GFY, we ain't helping you with ****." We didn't bother getting permission from Packistan when we went after OBL and AAA was supposedly so much more of a Serious and Imminent threat we didn't even try to indict AAA or physically apprehend him.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:46 AM   #117
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Yeah man. Those skeptical of the government should be drugged and locked in padded rooms somewhere.

USA! USA!
That's not what I said. I'm more skeptical of the govt. than the avg person I do believe. I just don't believe in santa claus, fairy tales & outrageous, unsubstantiated, conspiracy theories. Learned all about the loons after 9/11.

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:36 PM   #118
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It seems as tho many ppl have forgotten that President Obama was awarded the Noble Peace Prize.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:42 PM   #119
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I bet those who gave it to him have been doing a bunch of s
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:43 PM   #120
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My favorite part of this was the complete omit of Africa.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:46 PM   #121
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I guess it wasn't PC to have a continent stamped with the word AIDS.
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:18 PM   #122
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'A White House statement said the president expressed U.S. solidarity with Saudi Arabia'

Nice to hear the leaders of the free world express their solidarity with one of the most undemocratic and repressive regime's in the world.

Why does the USA let itself down so badly in its foreign relations? Invade Iraq under the banner of democracy and freedom on one hand while on the other support Saudi Arabia.
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:24 PM   #123
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My favorite part of this was the complete omit of Africa.
Didn't even notice Africa is missing.
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:59 PM   #124
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My favorite part of this was the complete omit of Africa.
I saw another version of that picture where Africa was there, labeled "zoo animals come from here".
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:05 PM   #125
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'A White House statement said the president expressed U.S. solidarity with Saudi Arabia'

Nice to hear the leaders of the free world express their solidarity with one of the most undemocratic and repressive regime's in the world.

Why does the USA let itself down so badly in its foreign relations? Invade Iraq under the banner of democracy and freedom on one hand while on the other support Saudi Arabia.

How about that doozie the other day where Obama waived a ban on military aid for countries that use child soldiers. Obama 2012!
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