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Old 02-20-2012, 05:21 PM   #586
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Nice rant. All I wanted to do was point out, again, that a unilateral strike by Israel is extremely unlikely due to logistics. But I did enjoy the rant.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:46 PM   #587
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This is where you, the reader, can acknowledge that the world is better off without Assad nukes, Hussein nukes and Ayatollah nukes, or - you the reader can instead divert attention from the issue back on to a scapegoat of your choosing.
In the context of your post this is a bit of a false dichotomy. Most opponents to premtive strikes on Iran rank their preferred realities as:

1. Iran doesn't pursue nuclear weapons.
2. Iran does pursue nuclear weapons and is left alone to do so.
3. Iran does pursue nuclear weapons and aggressive action is taken to prevent them from building one.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:45 PM   #588
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These facts always seem to be ignored re: Israeli strikes, but let's put them out there one more time:

Iran Raid Seen as a Huge Task for Israeli Jets
This is a response to that article: http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-s...-easy-1.413795

Points out that while it would be very difficult, their defense spending and preparations for the past decade or so has been setting them up for an operation of this nature
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:11 AM   #589
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Nice rant. All I wanted to do was point out, again, that a unilateral strike by Israel is extremely unlikely due to logistics. But I did enjoy the rant.
Thanks. It was a good rant, wasn't it? :-) My point being that, no matter how unlikely, or difficult, you'll be better off it succeeds should it come down to it.

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In the context of your post this is a bit of a false dichotomy. Most opponents to premtive strikes on Iran rank their preferred realities as:

1. Iran doesn't pursue nuclear weapons.
2. Iran does pursue nuclear weapons and is left alone to do so.
3. Iran does pursue nuclear weapons and aggressive action is taken to prevent them from building one.
You're right about the false dichotomy - I was posting from the perspective that Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons and that action must be taken to stop them. Aggressive action, considering passive action (diplomacy) hasn't done anything but allow Iran to stall in hopes of furthering their program (peaceful or not).
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:33 AM   #590
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What diplomacy has been tried?

How do we know "they are trying to develop a nuclear weapon?"
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:38 AM   #591
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Speaking of false dichotomy, how about "glad for those so save my freedom" rant? You realize if they were to get a nuclear weapon they could never use it with their entire country being annihilated right?
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:49 AM   #592
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What diplomacy has been tried?

How do we know "they are trying to develop a nuclear weapon?"
Dude, they know all about the "yellow cake" that was being shipped......


Wait, wrong evidence, wrong country. Sorry.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:21 AM   #593
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Who's to say you would have a given a **** about tanks rolling (not necessarlily firing) in a country you never heard of?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...-style-447404/

one of my old gems...not sure why this was locked btw
Thanks for posting!
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:27 AM   #594
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Dude, they know all about the "yellow cake" that was being shipped......


Wait, wrong evidence, wrong country. Sorry.
Good enough for gubment work.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:05 AM   #595
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Please God ten dollar a gallon gas ONE TIME
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:10 AM   #596
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Please God ten dollar a gallon gas ONE TIME
You must really want us to invade Iran.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:15 AM   #597
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I think we'd be better off with Iran having nukes.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:58 PM   #598
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Read this, and learn all you need to know.

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/fil...n_strategy.pdf

Parts of this outline the American plan, they don't even hide this **** anymore!

Also, this blog entry, educate yourself-

http://djosiris.blogspot.com/2011/09...-all-lies.html

Incredible piece on Libya and also later on discusses a lot of the lies we are fed. Just incredibly stuff really.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:10 PM   #599
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Entering the 21st century, and obviously before, the whole media story of the middle east is a sham of epic proportions.

Iraq- reason to go there- bull**** propoganda!

Libya- reasons to go there- bull**** propoganda!

Syria is on the news now, the evidence is overwhelming that CIA backed terrorists and snipers are killing civilians, research it for ****'s sake! The media is making us feel for the poor people and we'll intervene sooner or later.

Syria just happens to be Iran's final ally in the region, the regime will be gone there.

Then Iran, it is all planned- the problem is, other nations (Russia and China) are not going to sit back and let us attack Iran, so basically, make the most of life as you know it.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:12 PM   #600
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