http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoHEJ0acZz8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jqxVXdIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSieUhqIR6k

We forget don't we, we seem to not live in the present, and that out leaders are good people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPCTB...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DizW...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aup7...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKcu...eature=related

There was no justification at all to destory Libya, it happened, thousands died from our bombs and Libya is no longer on the news.

We took over the oil, set up a central bank, a country with no national debt, that had the best living standards in Africa, and now it is in the hands of rebels!

It is all about empire, don't buy the media propoganda, wake up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE2Sd...eature=related

Oh boy

I'm not sure what Iran would do, more attacks against Israeli targets overseas, attacks on western interests, etc, but the rhetoric continues.

"Iran says it would 'act without waiting' to protect national interests"

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02...t-visit-sites/

Stop reading propoganda please!

Iran does not want war with America, they actively seek to avoid it!

Read my first link from the Brookings Institute, America is actively trying to goad Iran to War.

Whether they try another 9/11 job to convince people I don't know, but the fears are being set, and people are buying it!

Jesus H Christ someone ban this guy fast, he's onto us.

(Also, is anything that suggests war may be a good idea by definition propaganda?)

Edit: Also, don't be obtuse. Of course Iran doesn't want war. Guess what, the United States (more precisely, the government) don't want war either. But ***if*** Iran is insistent on developing nuclear weapons (not saying they are), war is the lesser of the two evils imo.

The Brookings Institute document doesn't advocate war: It basically examines pros and cons for all of America's options for dealing with Iran. And while some of the options include use of force, other options advocate for engagement and "carrot and stick" approaches.

That is a completely ignorant statement

Did the US want war in Iraq? It seemed like we liked it so well that we went back for seconds.

That is a completely ignorant statement

The American people don't want war.

But the people who control the American Government, (close ties to Israel) almost certainly want to go to war with Iran.

The American mainstream media is a propoganda machine, and the sad thing is, people are buying the bull **** they pump at you.

Iraq, Afghan, Libya, all forced upon us by our 'governments', millions of people dead, all possible through the majority of the population accepting the bull**** our politicians and 'journalists' feed us.

War with Iran is a certainty, it will come after the Assad regime is removed when NATO gets involved in Syria.

This has all been outlined over the last 2 decades, the actual timelines haven't been perfect but the countries who America wants wir with to expand their empire have been on the card for years.

Libya was a stable country, debt free, Gaddafi was not the best man in the world but if you do your research, you will see he helped bring wealth and improved the living standards greatly. The western media made him out to be a tyrant, and evidence the propoganda was bull ****.

Libya was bombed (why did they bomb the country?!!!!) and now has been destablised, the rebels are a lot more ruthless and the Banking elite already have a central bank set up there. Private companies have also plundered the oil reserves (the larrgest in Africa).

Syria is the last ally of Iran in the region, America or Nato WILL intervene with their R2P bull**** propoganda, it has already been dtermined as part of the agenda.

Sadly, the majority of the population will want us to intervene because so many people are being killed and we'll be there to save them! The fact that the killing is being carried out by CIA sponsored snipers on citizens will remain unknown to most people.

you've said literally nothing of substance here.

answer my question please. is anything that supports war in iran by definition propaganda?

what knowledge do you have that the for-profit independent media (i.e. not government-funded like RT or NPR) "propaganda machine" doesn't? why should we believe you over hundreds of journalism majors that you are saying are really just secret government agents?

oh gamblor

You're saying no substance, yet Libya was a stable, debt free country with the best living standards in Africa. So explain to me how the news reporting false evidence is not propaganda? They made 'us' believe Gaddafi was killing everyone, mass rapes etc, none of it has any evidence yet the media reported it as 100% truth to influence us.

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.

That is exactly what the mainstream news does, be it to make us fearful of terrorists so we invade Iraq or Afghan, or make it appear we need to act on out R2P and save the people in countries that need our help.

If you think the mainstream news is trying to bring you the truth, then good luck to you.

Israel is full of brown people. Knock yourself out.

1) debt-free is not necessarily a good thing.
2) What is your source that life was so peachy in Libya? Who were all these rebels?

Source for this quote? Did you just make it up?

This is exactly what *you* are doing. You are trying to influence my position with your posts. If you think whatever small-timey news you're reading is any better, then good luck to you. The benefit of corporate news is the checks and balances in the resources at its disposal to cover stories, and the shareholder/management separation model.

Alternatively, as I asked in the other thread: Why is *your* news source any more or less reliable than a "mainstream" news source? You do understand that the "mainstream" news sources compete with each other, don't you? They aren't part of some cabal to keep you out of the loop, any more than the "Zionists" own the media or other such nonsense.

im from israel, and half of my ****ing family is brown. but im the racist.

Tell that to Ashington. He is the one who wants to kill brown people

One of TPTK's links was an article written by some Icelandic guy outlining the various lies 'the sheep' have been fed by the crafty jews in the mainstream media. Obviously it90% conspiracy nut bs although he makes some interesting points which he does actually back up with evidence (although I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me could rip holes in all of his arguments).