The current meme is that, if you're trying to sell a book on racial relations, "Barack Obama from Kenya" sounds better to publishers than "Barry Dunham (or Barry Sotero) from Hawaii". The story is also that, the publicist had to get their info from someone. And that someone could only have been Obama.

It was a stupid argument in 2008. The new argument in 2012 isn't any better and it's a distraction.

Except that story is about as necessarily true as the story he was born in Kenya. And yet, to this day, no one has ever been able to show where Barack Obama himself ever actually said he was born in Kenya. Ever.

So true, yet stupid is as birther does.

Hussein tho

We need to make sure Romney's parents were citizens imo.

There is the possibility that the publisher was either an idiot or lied. Both are very possible. Especially since Barack Hussein Obama WAS born in Kenya. Obviously, his father with the same name.

This new story seems to be a mix of exciting the Birthers with "new evidence", while at the same time give plausible deniability to Republicans by being able to claim "see, he was born in Hawaii, but he was claiming to be from Kenya, so its obvious why we were confused! Plus Barack is an opportunist who will spread falsehoods to promote himself! Can he really be trusted???!"

That's assuming that there is some kind of gameplan besides getting attention, publicity, and money by those running this stuff.

Completely false. Bachman never exceeded 14% in R national primary polling.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-1452.html

Just curious if you were alive in the late 60's? Comparing Bachmann to Romney is just silly.

G Romney was a 3 time elected popular Governor of a major state with 8 years experience running a major corporation. He was a moderate, pro civil rights leader at a time when the Democrat Senate was filibustering the civil rights amendment.

Bachmann is a person that's political base is restricted to religious extremists, which is the major reason she wasn't a threat to M. Romney, even in today's R party.

G Romney was universally liked among rebublicans and electable among democrats, however, he lacked foreign policy experience which was a pretty big deal during the cold war. His campaign tanked when this happened. From Wiki:

An off the cuff remark virtually ended his campaign. Not particularly smart to say your were "brainwashed" if you want to be president of the USA.

Not sure if serious. But Mitt's mom was definitely an American citizen. Mitt's father was apparently a citizen also, but the wikipedia biography of him is unclear as to how he got his citizenship. He was definitely born in Mexico to a US citizen mother and father, but I didn't think that gave you citizenship back then (1907) (or else the McCain citizenship issue wouldn't have been an issue at all.)

Not that it matters, because Mitt was born in Michigan.

This article says that George was a citizen because he was born to US Citizens, but I guess that made him a dual-citizen?

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-be-president/

Sounds unclear. We definitely need proof. Where are their birth certificates? Are they real?
That's what HE says.

Well, I mean, we have no reason to doubt his claim that he was, at least.

Well, as pointed out earlier in this thread, Mitt was born closer to a foreign country than Obama was (the hospital being 2 miles from the Canadian border, while Hawaii is a thousand miles from the nearest country).

New unbeatable strategy for prospective Democratic candidates is just to surreptitiously leak vague allusions to sinister personal facts, like maybe your masters dissertation praised Stalin as a personal hero, or your wedding was officiated by an imam or something, let the right wing trip all over themselves claiming you're really some kind of degen CommiMuslim, there's a huge conspiracy to hide it, and you're at the heart of the CommiMuslim takeover, based on that one thing, then just release the info that proves the conspiracy is retarded and your political opponents are insane. If Obama orchestrated all this, he's brilliant. It's the obvious play going forward. Because the NewOldGuy meme here is like, well Obama caused Birtherism by "giving them ammo" like 20 year old press releases and some article once, and that thing Michelle Obama said that kinda sounded like maybe he WAS born in Kenya. Which at first sounds like a hilarious canard to excuse your political allies being drolling retards, but on reflection sounds like what maybe some master jedi mind-**** would involve. In sum: yes NewOldGuy, maybe Obama is just trolling the right over the last 25 years, revealing just enough to make the right believe he's really Kenyan born when he wasn't. Bravo if so. The right was completely helpless and unable to stop themselves here, Obama gave them just enough to hang themselves with, he's a master of these games, can't trust him. If only there wasn't this constant Obama-induced game between "dozens of fact-checking sites, two high profile releases of both his birth certificate and his long form birth certificate, a newspaper announcement of his birth at the time of his birth, and common sense" versus Obama giving ammo like a 20 year old press release Ghost Brietbart discovered two weeks ago pulling the right in two equally compelling directions on this. Alas, life isn't so simple, and Obama gave all the ammo so this is really his doing, somehow.

Mexico doesn't give birthright citizenship, so he was never a Mexican citizen.

George Romney entered the country illegally, as a Mexican-born immigrant without a visa. Mitt was his anchor baby.

Not if he wasn't born in Michigan.

National polling be damned, she won the Iowa straw poll, and was a leading contender in a few wack states at the time. You're still missing the point. By the actual start of the primary/caucus process, Romney was already toast, and already not a major candidate. His standing in June 1967 is irrelevant, particuarly in an era were actual hard public campaigning didn't start nearly as early as it does today.

And yes, I was certainly alive in the late 60s. So?