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Old 06-14-2017, 07:56 AM   #301
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einbert had the same take but I think it's not quite correct. The Senate rules are obviously esoteric and largely a bunch of mumbo jumbo customs anyway so there's no reason to be too precious about them. But the Ex Officio members (which is what McCain, Reed are) -- they are allowed to do anything on the committee except vote, and "interrupting each other" isn't really a documented privilege for either full members or Ex Officio members.

Basically, it's one of the classic over-fitting/under-fitting scenarios. Ex Officio members can be whiny and bicker with the full members in committee hearings but it's not really clear trying to man-hush the black lady is a documented franchise enjoyed by anyone and it's a dick move in any context. We'd all still be complaining if it was Rubio or Cotton so I don't see what McCain's member status really matters.
Lawrence o donnell pointed out the guest thing but im sure there are two sides of it like you point out, i cant tell.


Regarding your last sentence on membership, it matters for the same reason that it matters in every social context you can think off. Your membership staus of any group decides what is concidered acceptable and what is not acceptable behaviour. Its about knowing your place in the world. An example would be an intern getting into arguments with the boss about the direction for the company or the new kid at the block that urges to be the captain of the football team. These are people we dont like.

A person like Rubio interrupting would be rude, but at least hes not an outsider. So we would dislike rubio but we would really dislike mccain. Thats why the difference here is subtle but vital.
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:37 AM   #302
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Can someone with Photoshop talent make a jiff of Jefferson Beauregard as Alfred E. Neuman with the caption, "What, Me Recall?" I'll be ur best frand
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:42 AM   #303
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:14 PM   #304
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Is it worth overwhelming Beauregard with demands to resign? There's cause now. How can we depend on an Attorney General who can't remember anything important?

How can a POTUS and AG not hold our biggest enemy accountable for a major attack on our country? How can we take NO steps to prevent a repeat event in 2018 or 2020?

This is asinine.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:19 PM   #305
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They should force him to resign but Congress must also hold him in contempt for refusing to testify. If they do not do so we are truly lost.
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Old 06-14-2017, 02:43 PM   #307
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They should force him to resign but Congress must also hold him in contempt for refusing to testify. If they do not do so we are truly lost.
Congress holding an ex senator in contempt

You make the best jokes einbert.
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:40 PM   #308
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:10 PM   #309
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Sessions might not be compromised by Russia but basically he had little contact with any ambassadors previous to 2016, he hops on the Trump train, and suddenly has had multiple contacts with the Russian ambassador.
He met with a lot of ambassadors in 2016. NPR had a list of 30 officially as Senator. That does not include the meetings of ambassadors after speeches, parties etc. Given the one meeting with Kislyak was after a speech in which a bunch of ambassadors were present and also met with him (their presence was arranged by O's white House) The total Russian ones look pretty insignificant.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...s-met-in-2016/

My guess was he was angling for the SoS job and was padding his resume in the unlikely event Trump pulled off a victory. There is no way he was the go between for illegal Russian Collusion.
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Old 06-15-2017, 02:52 PM   #310
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Maybe Sessions could google himself to see which Russians or their representatives he's met with that may have slipped his mind.

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An American lobbyist for Russian interests who helped craft an important foreign policy speech for Donald Trump has confirmed that he attended two dinners hosted by Jeff Sessions during the 2016 campaign, apparently contradicting the attorney generalís sworn testimony given this week.

Sessions testified under oath on Tuesday that he did not believe he had any contacts with lobbyists working for Russian interests over the course of Trumpís campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...P=share_btn_tw
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