So he lied to made himself look like Rambo. Should they fire his ass? Looks like he might not make it back after this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6642368.html

NBC needs to follow the lead of Fox and CNN News' 24/7 truth networks and can him right? All news networks report 100% truth always and we need to keep it that way. Hasta la vista scumbag.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/i...n_stewart.html

So many good memes came from this

Was o'reilly fired too?

scumbags never confess to be fired

Too often people try to attribute lying to statements that are not lies but just hypotheticals and common language use. Take this example from a blog post at DailyKos on Saturday about O'Reilly:

Any non military person who is present in a combat fight is going to believe that they were in combat, even though they mean that they were in combat just as an observer and not a participant. The rest of his quote is a hypothetical.

The problem is the DailyKos writer wants to catch him in a lie, so he bends the clear meaning of these words and goes so far as to leadingly suggest you can't contemplate how to deal with an enemy prisoner unless you have commanded a unit in real life

We're too smart for that BS.

If Brian Williams statements were hypotheticals or fuzzy language, he would get a pass. The key is to read his actual words and ask yourself if he is making a false statement or talking in hypotheticals. Williams fails the test.

On what planet is this "fuzzy language"?

I mean, I know contractions are hard, but it's still pretty straightforward.

(it's = it is)

As John Steward said, finally someone is going to pay for lying about the Iraq war.

The fuzziness is in your brain. You assume a civilian can not be in combat as nothing more than a witness. Lots of journalists qualify.


It's pretty clear he is not claiming to have shot at people.

lol "scumbag"

people's memories are notoriously bad, especially in high-stakes situations. So he misremembered something 10 years ago, big ****ing deal.

Seems like if that's what he meant, he would have said the above, and not what he actually said.

If Brian Williams said

"I was on a helicopter that crashed. I was at the base where a helicopter crashed."

I would give him a pass for immediately clarifying his first utterance, which was perhaps a brain fart. But Williams does not do that, he intends to deceive, and so he does not get a pass.

I tell you what, I've had sex. I've seen it. I've been close to it.

Well, just so long as you're a mind reader who can divine intent based on ad-hoc rules of tribalism...

^^^ This

But meta-news is much more entertaining to folks than actual news, so this is a huge story. Especially since he's on one side of the whole *NBC vs FOX thing.

lol @ defending Geraldo and O'Reilly itt

This is precisely the sort of intellectual dishonesty that keeps Fox News on the air.

Except he's been telling this story for years. Military people just got tired of his lies and called him out on it because he kept repeating it over and over.

I doubt that Williams is a victim of fuzzy memory and just plain exaggerated. Still don't care.

I like Geraldo.

Bill claimed that Inside Edition won two Peabody Awards when he was host of that show. In reality, it won zero Peabody awards. False statement or hypothetical?

There is a big difference between a guy who runs a political opinion/entertainment show and a anchor/reporter. In the position of the former all that matters is what his ratings are and the station can always qualify the remarks as not made on behalf of the station. If the audience cares enough, his ratings tank and then he is gone.

The later is really speaking behalf of the station and needs credibility that he/she is delivering the truth.

Really do not care but curious as to what ends up happening. One can't help but see the similarities between what Hillary lied about years ago. Maybe this is why the left will come running to absolve Williams as simply a fuzzy memory.

lol of course there is

Does credibility matter?

His news report in 2003 was accurate. Puffing his chest on Letterman is a different animal IMO.

If it turns out he made up **** on the nightly news regarding Katrina then he will (rightly) lose his job.

Oh yay it's the politards version of NVG.

This is not a thing that matters.