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My initial sense is that President Obama's best move is to nominate a super well qualified centrist that Republicans would look terrible filibustering. I don't think he has any hope of getting anyone as far left of center as Kagan or Sotomayor through.

02-13-2016 , 06:22 PM

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SenorKeeed

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

I think you need a majority vote in supreme court decisions to rule for the plantiff. If there's a tie the defendant wins by default.

No, the lower court ruling is affirmed in a non-precedent setting decision.

02-13-2016 , 06:22 PM

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ikestoys

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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK

What's the procedure for nominating a Supreme Court judge? What happens judges vote 4-4?

Chief Justice wins. That would be the fairly conservative roberts.

Last edited by ikestoys; 02-13-2016 at 06:23 PM. Reason: nvm this is wrong

02-13-2016 , 06:22 PM

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seattlelou

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Better call Saul. I assume that is Trumps pick.

02-13-2016 , 06:22 PM

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Can Cruz just single handedly filibuster nominees? He can right?

This also refocuses the importance of electability on the dem side too.

This could have a huge impact on both sides of the election.

02-13-2016 , 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK

What's the procedure for nominating a Supreme Court judge? What happens judges vote 4-4?

lower court opinion affirmed IIRC

02-13-2016 , 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

I think you need a majority vote in supreme court decisions to rule for the plantiff. If there's a tie the defendant wins by default.

Pretty sure the lower court decision stands, but no supreme court precedence is set.

02-13-2016 , 06:23 PM

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I'd bet on goofy bring right - GOP will refuse to conform anyone.

4-4 opinions leave the appealed decisions below standing.

02-13-2016 , 06:23 PM

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champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Chief Justice wins. That would be the fairly conservative roberts.

lol no

02-13-2016 , 06:23 PM

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ALLTheCookies

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It's going to be hilarious when Republicans block Obama's nominee to replace a strict Constitutionalist judge.

02-13-2016 , 06:23 PM

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V0dkanockers

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

lower court opinion affirmed IIRC

This.

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...e-court-2015-6

02-13-2016 , 06:23 PM

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SenorKeeed

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I hope RBG gives the eulogy, will be well worth listening to if she does.

02-13-2016 , 06:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

Can Cruz just single handedly filibuster nominees? He can right?

This also refocuses the importance of electability on the dem side too.

This could have a huge impact on both sides of the election.

It will definitely increase the fear mongering.

02-13-2016 , 06:24 PM

#39

SenorKeeed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Chief Justice wins. That would be the fairly conservative roberts.

DR IKES ESQ

02-13-2016 , 06:24 PM

#40

STA654

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wow.

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddydvo

yes.

02-13-2016 , 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by synth_floyd

I think you need a majority vote in supreme court decisions to rule for the plantiff. If there's a tie the defendant wins by default.

Yeah, that's just made up. It has nothing to do with plaintiff and defendant. But obviously the Court can't overrule anything if it is deadlocked 4-4.

02-13-2016 , 06:25 PM

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Chief Justice wins. That would be the fairly conservative roberts

Oh my. Can someone cue up Reagan's "there you go again" from one of his debates?

02-13-2016 , 06:25 PM

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tomdemaine

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Originally Posted by mutigers

could have easily been RGB btw

she should step down now for maximum lolz

edit- i don't actually really know the ins and outs of how that works

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0745708/

02-13-2016 , 06:25 PM

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I hope RBG gives the eulogy, will be well worth listening to if she does.

Good call. That seems quite possible.

02-13-2016 , 06:26 PM

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Angus Johnston ‏@studentactivism 5m5 minutes ago
The longest Supreme Court confirmation process from nomination to resolution was Brandeis, at 125 days. Obama has 342 days left in office.

02-13-2016 , 06:26 PM

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What's the procedure for nominating a Supreme Court judge? What happens judges vote 4-4?

If that happens, the lower court ruling holds and no new precedent is set. Specifically, in the abortion case that's on the docket (Whole Woman's Health v. Hellerstedt), I know that the lower court issued a conservative opinion, meaning that the outcome of this case is unlikely to change. I don't know offhand about other cases that are being considered.

02-13-2016 , 06:26 PM

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Looking back through history, there are shockingly few justices that have died/stopped serving in election years. The last time it happened (unless I'm bad at dividing by 4 today) was 1916, when one justice died and one stepped down:

- January 2, Joseph Rucker Lamar dies; Louis Brandeis is nominated January 29, faces a long confirmation battle, is confirmed June 1
- June 10, Charles Evans Hughes leaves his SC seat to run for President as a Republican (!!!), replaced by John Hessin Clarke (nominated by Woodrow Wilson, who defeated Hughes in the presidential race later that year) on July 24

02-13-2016 , 06:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rococo

Yeah, that's just made up. It has nothing to do with plaintiff and defendant. But obviously the Court can't overrule anything if it is deadlocked 4-4.

Well, if you replace "plaintiff" and "defendant" with "appellant" and "appellee" it's basically right.