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Old 04-05-2016, 01:03 PM   #26
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Just to be clear, none of you actually think safe spaces are bad, I hope.

When my kids and I are looking to pick a university, even if they are straight, a safe space is a positive symptom of a wider tolerance and acceptance that should exist there.

Sure ideally in a couple decades they won't be needed, but let's be realistic.
Those aren't safe spaces, its just called human decency. Conservatives are furious that first amendment rights are being trampled but the only examples they have are the Mizzou hunger striker and Yale not being cool with blackface.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:06 PM   #27
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Not being a being a dick run amok!
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:10 PM   #28
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Yeah, those aren't safe spaces. They're workshops and seminars to promote tolerance for LGBT. They don't restrict any 1st amendment rights and they're not physical spaces. You should read the article.
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Here, again, is the difference between the safe-space branding and the conservative perception of it.

I read about the first 5 schools on here and it sounds like as a faculty member you can take a sensitivity course for a couple hours and get a little sticker to put on your office door to designate yourself as someone that's not a judgmental *******.
Yeah, that what is described in the article is exactly what a safe space is supposed to be.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-space

All the hoopla around them isn't due to their stated purposes, it's to how they are being used and abused to restrict free speech on campus. That is being roundly criticised by the left and the right, and even by many ITT who are downplaying their existence.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:15 PM   #29
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Wait, what makes you say this?

The article quoted one of the Trumpistas as saying they were scared but did you notice how there wasn't a single example of anyone actually being physically intimidated?

You're suggesting the Republicans get extra credit in this comparison for being absolutely terrified for no reason? lololol
I blame the Internet. These digital natives can spend their teenage years being edgy ****heads in the anonymity of the Internet, then they find themselves flung into a new world in college where being a fedora'd Trump fan has actual real-world consequences. It's a scary environment for them.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:19 PM   #30
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Yeah, that what is described in the article is exactly what a safe space is supposed to be.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-space

All the hoopla around them isn't due to their stated purposes, it's to how they are being used and abused to restrict free speech on campus. That is being roundly criticised by the left and the right, and even by many ITT who are downplaying their existence.
I'm aware of the definition but that's not what the right are referring to when they complain about safe spaces.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:27 PM   #31
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Yeah, that what is described in the article is exactly what a safe space is supposed to be.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-space

All the hoopla around them isn't due to their stated purposes, it's to how they are being used and abused to restrict free speech on campus. That is being roundly criticised by the left and the right, and even by many ITT who are downplaying their existence.
Yeah, unlike the holocaust SAFE SPACES ARE REAL and a big problem.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:28 PM   #32
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Those aren't safe spaces, its just called human decency. Conservatives are furious that first amendment rights are being trampled but the only examples they have are the Mizzou hunger striker and Yale not being cool with blackface.

Uh just google safe spaces and filter by left leaning rags if you wish.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:31 PM   #33
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Yeah, unlike the holocaust SAFE SPACES ARE REAL and a big problem.

I'm all about free speech, mang. Sorry if that turns you off.

I've never downplayed the holocaust, btw. That's just you and fly getting triggered about nothing. Pretty much case and point how the problems on campus start...
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:33 PM   #34
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Just to be clear, none of you actually think safe spaces are bad, I hope.

When my kids and I are looking to pick a university, even if they are straight, a safe space is a positive symptom of a wider tolerance and acceptance that should exist there.

Sure ideally in a couple decades they won't be needed, but let's be realistic.
They should be ready to hit the real world by age 30 hopefully. Hopefully the RA in their dorm had a safe space sticker or you might have to pull them out
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:34 PM   #35
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Can anyone tell me why the most honest way[IMO] of electing anyone being "one person one vote" is not being used in the USA?

Because this "state delegates" bs is not IMO it seems like a lazy way of electing or/and a more easy way for manipulating[if one wanted to do so] elections since 1 delegate can represent tens of thousands of voters, very strange IMO.
Thank you.
I think that since its a primary they are not bound by normal election laws (not sure how the general election works). So by doing it this way the guys who run the republican party can to some degree manipulate who wins etc, so its a way of keeping more power for themselves compared to completely giving up their power.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:34 PM   #36
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Yeah, unlike the holocaust SAFE SPACES ARE REAL and a big problem.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:35 PM   #37
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He stands there on stage and doesnt say much, and sometimes he says the others should stop the low level arguing and that he balanced a budget. So he might come off as a moderate, and of course he might be more moderate than the others on some issues.



But on abortions he is very far from moderate:



http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-rights-record



And hes a pretty heavy warmonger, wants to invade Iraq, Syria and Libya.



I havent studied the guy too much but i can only assume most of his views are crazy like all other republicans.

If you don't differentiate between Republican candidates this thread is pointless. I made a mistake of replying to a post that asserted that Kasich was a clown because he made a perfectly valid electability argument. I won't repeat it.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:38 PM   #38
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I'm all about free speech, mang. Sorry if that turns you off.

I've never downplayed the holocaust, btw. That's just you and fly getting triggered about nothing. Pretty much case and point how the problems on campus start...
Uhhhh how do SAFE SPACES infringe on free speech?
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:38 PM   #39
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I'm all about free speech, mang. Sorry if that turns you off.
Are you sure? Seems like you want a safe space to discuss your cutting edge "Jews and historians are lying about the holocaust to get support for Israel" theory. We just want to be able to call you a racist moron for that.
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Are you sure? Seems like you want a safe space to discuss your cutting edge "Jews and historians are lying about the holocaust to get support for Israel" theory. We just want to be able to call you a racist moron for that.
Nope, but feel free to make stuff up.
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Nope, but feel free to make stuff up.
Dessin's be lyin' amirite?
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:43 PM   #42
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I'm all about free speech, mang. Sorry if that turns you off.

I've never downplayed the holocaust, btw. That's just you and fly getting triggered about nothing. Pretty much case and point how the problems on campus start...
So just to clarify, you're anti teachers taking classes to promote tolerance and pro teachers allowing their students to call other students f*** in their classrooms?
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Uhhhh how do SAFE SPACES infringe on free speech?
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate...of-free-speech

If that doesn't explain it well enough for you, then try reading another of the hundreds of arcticles by critics on the left and right. Little surprised you apparently missed this.
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Also, Kasich is just another republican idiot. His main purpose is so that people like you can get all your racist policies without the overt racist overtones and can claim it is about "small government/corporate welfare, not racism".
The next time conservatives complain that liberals use racism as a cudgel to attack conservative ideology, not just the racist parts, remember that there is an element of truth to that assertion. I'll even grant that Kasich has implemented some racist policies, but this quote isn't directly about him.
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Can anyone tell me why the most honest way[IMO] of electing anyone being "one person one vote" is not being used in the USA?

Because this "state delegates" bs is not IMO it seems like a lazy way of electing or/and a more easy way for manipulating[if one wanted to do so] elections since 1 delegate can represent tens of thousands of voters, very strange IMO.
Thank you.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:47 PM   #46
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http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate...of-free-speech

If that doesn't explain it well enough for you, then try reading another of the hundreds of arcticles by critics on the left and right. Little surprised you apparently missed this.
Bro if you can't even bother to articulate how you think SAFE SPACES infringe on free speech then I'm not going to bother reading your link
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So just to clarify, you're anti teachers taking classes to promote tolerance and pro teachers allowing their students to call other students f*** in their classrooms?
Nah, it sounds like a good idea. Apparently in practice, more and more college professors fear for their jobs because ahole students who can't think twist anything they say into a microaggression.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...n-mind/399356/

Really surprised you guys are still taking the other side so aggressively. I mean, I don't mind arguing it, it's certainly a debate worth having, but why so smug?
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Bro if you can't even bother to articulate how you think SAFE SPACES infringe on free speech then I'm not going to bother reading your link
Well, bruh, I got like ten people jumping down my throat at the moment, and like the article articulates the issues much better than I can. Basically it boils down to the same sort of bs that happens here daily. Someone says something someone else disagrees with, decides it's offensive, and calls for the dorm/classroom/campus to be a safespace and that student or professor to get booted from campus so they don't have to listen to anything they disagree with. It's one thing if that thing is actually hate speech, but another when it's actually not.
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I mean you can't even call call a black guy a ****** on campus anymore. WHAT AN OUTRAGE
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Just to be clear, none of you actually think safe spaces are bad, I hope.

When my kids and I are looking to pick a university, even if they are straight, a safe space is a positive symptom of a wider tolerance and acceptance that should exist there.

Sure ideally in a couple decades they won't be needed, but let's be realistic.
Are you gonna neuter your male children?
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