No arguments are being ignored because of tone but I certainly agree the disruptive nature of name calling is very much a two sided problem,

I thought it was you who just blamed one side - was I mistaken?

Err no.

I'm the one who's been pushing the two-sided solution for years now: (i) no posting "You're a R-word", and (ii) no derailing when someone else posts "That's R-Word". It's a win/win/win solution, as I've explained just above ITT.

Okay, sorry that does ring a bell now. I'm in the two sided solution camp as well although iirc correctly we disagree slightly about the details.

A day in the life of FoldNDark, 10.5 hours of non-stop posting:

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Hehe, it's been a nice and lazy Monday answering all your questions. Only about 5000 more posts to catch a Trolly.

Btw, this isn't true is it? As I recall, you did want him banned from Politics forum, right?

This, incredibly, is not the first time that viciously intolerant racists like chezlaw and FoldN have tried to use MLK's words as a reason to agree with people that Mexicans ruin neighborhoods and institutional racism is a Jew hoax.

But here's the thing: that fools nobody. It will never fool anyone, ever, because the lie is exposed by any additional context. Nobody is reading FoldN or chez posts and thinking "boy these guys are just limitlessly tolerant and compassionate", they both have enemies lists a mile long and LOVE yelling at libtards.

FoldN- Each and every person who has ever called you racist was desperately, desperately trying to provoke the slimmest ****ing spark of introspection in your godawful posting. They should get thank you cards!

Like, chez, FoldN, cutting to the chase, nobody wants to have a "productive" discussion about the inherent genetic inferiority of blacks, the unappreciated moral virtues of the confederacy, the shared blame the oppressed have for their own oppression, and so forth. That you do says some pretty awful **** about your values. And you really, really want that. Every ****ing issue, you two guys are right out there on the furthest right flank posting in defense of what are often literal white supremacists, just aghast at the incivility directed at them.

So given that neither of you has shown the slightest interest in learning from others*, it is important, as a forum, for the benefit of lurkers, that it is clear that your kind is unwelcome here. It's what stops us from turning into /pol.

*Important SMP to Enlgish translation here, a "productive discussion" is one in which right wingers get to post chain email stereotypes unchallenged. It's not like either of these chuckleheads ever really stake out a position of their own, and they definitely never change their minds even when confronted with evidence to the contrary. They just want ****ing attaboys for logicking their way to "maybe laws against sexual harassment should be repealed" or whatever other garbage opinion they've decided to tangentially defend the virtue of.

Not really; usually I'm just pointing and laughing. I don't think many people here are under the illusion that the guy with his own personal "bitches be lying" story is ever going to become a better human being through internet slapfights.

Ha, I just watched this John Oliver song:

(NSFW)
https://youtu.be/RpxV9xuqLeA

Hilarious! Hope non of the grampas in here get offended.

What on earth are you talking about now fly?

Going a bit overboard with the 'trying to be mean' don't you think?

wint ‏@dril 8 Jan 2015
(struggling))ok i figured it out: all opinions are good, except for the opinions that say other peoples opinions are bad, because thats rude

Heh, heh, who knows? What is certain though is that I'm not allowed to respond in turn without getting banned for personal attacks. Hey, I'm up for a good dust up now and then, when productive dialogue is out of the question, but I'd surely be censured and censored from this safe space. Bout time people admit that.

And, since wook will probably soon admit he may have err mispoken about wanting to censor Bruce from Politics, preventing him from responding to the many attacks on him, maybe it's time for everyone who agrees with this situation to admit they are actually not big fans of free speech for others, just those they agree with, a very illiberal way of thinking.

But hope springs eternal. They could all change their minds tomorrow. I surely can't convince them to be liberal, but maybe this podcast will, featuring Jonathan Rauch, a well regarded gay rights and free speech activist.

Neither of you even went to college for ****'s sake

Though great to see the Racist Coddling Twins here play their biggest hit, transparently lying about that time BruceZ got disagreed with and then threatened to ban people for calling his posts racist.

A private website not wanting to condone Bruce's hate speech or be represented by a racist like BruceZ is a safe space issue now? Lol.

I mean, you were allowed to denigrate and personally attack your rape victim on twoplustwo without being banned. How much more leeway do you want?

That's a final tally of 64 posts in one day for FoldN. I think that narrowly beats chezlaw's record over in unchained.

Well Bruce isn't banned and can come back and post pretty much whatever he likes whenever he likes so it does have some aspects in common with foldn's other safe space outrage stories.

Come on I must have managed more than 64 posts in a day - that's almost nothing.

Seems like the admins could install a widget that automatically replaces the word "racist" with something tempered and non-insulting like "noisy, disrespectful cockroach." I feel like that should make everyone happy.

Good point Tom.

Lol SMP.

Fly cops a lot of bans doesn't he? I'm not sure exactly how it works but it seems to depend on whether anyone is minded to report it. Obviously that means the more tolerant get attacked more by the big meanies but then again we don't mind.

Just wanted to come back on your same rules applying to everyone. I'm a fan of that as well but it doesn't imply treating every poster equally because posters post differently. Same rules + different posts = different results. P seems to be modded pretty much that way to me.

There's no reason why you can't go for 70. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if one of you makes 100 posts/day, BruceZ will come back.

It's all still peanuts. You gasp in amazement as if it's approaching 1000

I don't think it will make any difference to your Bruce obsession either way - you're not getting over that anytime soon are you?

Never would have guessed the dude debating about lucky duck slaves and Mexican circus music would be, relatively speaking, the well-adjusted, socially normal member of a subforum but, well, here we are. Bruce probably hasn't thought about twoplustwo in a year and half but here is his rapist acolyte with a thousands post long thread passive aggressively whining about the situation.

Pretty incredible.