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And I would just have to say that is bs, WN. Using your perceived idea of my intentions as evidence of racism is pretty darn thin. It's pointless to argue that, there is no idea there to dispute. Pure emotional reasoning, and I would expect you to do better.
I can't really make sense of this. I said that I
don't believe you have any racist intentions. I did not interpret any perception of your intentions as evidence of racism. Rather the opposite. I clarified pretty specifically in what sense I find your attitudes to be "racist," which again is not a word I've used previously to describe you in this thread. Which part is "pure emotional reasoning?"
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I'm not trembling at any prospect of status quo
That quote wasn't addressed at you. It was addressed at the argument that MLK believed it was wrong to call out racism or to argue too stridently because he believed in love.
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hell I would support reparations because I've been convinced by reasonable arguments.
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But that doesn't mean any argument we disagree on makes me racist
I never suggested that disagreeing with me made you racist. In fact I never said you were a racist at all.
I feel like you're illustrating the point about white fragility again here. Previously the assertion was that much would be improved if we were just careful to call arguments racist instead of posters. I've done more than that. Not only did I carefully refer to specific statements you've made, but I was careful to qualify in what sense I felt they contributed to racial injustice. I did not call you a racist, and never have. I was careful to point out that I think you are well-intentioned.
Nevertheless, you are clearly incensed. You were upset by the idea that someone would even insinuate that you're racist. It's probably impossible to argue with someone that some of their ideas are racist without them feeling that it's being insinuated that they are racist. As a matter of fact, I have hewed pretty closely to your requests for an "intellectual" discussion of racism. It doesn't seem to have made it any more productive. You went off the rails several posts back and stopped responding to the actual arguments.