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Old 04-24-2011, 11:20 PM   #121
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He won't do that because they have no chance of winning. The election laws are so skewed against 3rd party runs. Besides, if they were a 3rd party, they wouldn't be allowed into debates, which is about all RP will be able to do. Take away the R and he has no bigger platform to get his message out than he does today.
I think it would clearly offer a better chance of winning than RP could achieve on his own, and even if there's still no real chance, it would focus a lot of attention on the anti-3rd party laws, which could potentially help pave the way for the future.

These guys need to get more creative if they actually want to have an impact. Beginning to redraw the political lines from Republican/Democrat to Decent Person/Corrupt Douchebag would be a good start.

Every principled anti-war, anti-Fed, anti-Wall Street candidate across the spectrum should get together in a room and not leave until they've hammered out a comprehensive strategy for running the country that focuses on those main issues and compromises on all the minor policy disagreements. Uniting the disaffected on both sides could make a big dent in the status quo.

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Old 04-24-2011, 11:40 PM   #122
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The Ron Paul followers approach is flawed. They need to pick a single state and create a libertarian base out of it. Ron Paul needs to be trying to run for governor of that state. His sons need to be running for senator of that state. It'll be so much productive to challenge the government from the platform of state sovereignty, to create militias, and make the fight through that vehicle. Create controversy threatening to succeed. Pass laws in direct confrontation of the federal government. Arrest federal government employees who violate those laws, etc. Create media coverage and awareness of issues. Otherwise he is just a 5 minute "Hahah Crazy Paul but them young kidz likez him Hahaha" segment on CNN.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:49 PM   #123
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Gary Johnson did that in NM. Well, most of it.
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Old 04-25-2011, 04:47 AM   #124
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The Ron Paul followers approach is flawed. They need to pick a single state and create a libertarian base out of it. Ron Paul needs to be trying to run for governor of that state. His sons need to be running for senator of that state. It'll be so much productive to challenge the government from the platform of state sovereignty,
why does it stop there?

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Otherwise he is just a 5 minute "Hahah Crazy Paul but them young kidz likez him Hahaha" segment on CNN.
meh so what? I don't agree with political action but I think the twist to your regularly scheduled programing is actually a redeeming aspect of it.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:33 PM   #125
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5yN3eExXvs

Dr. Paul on The View today.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:51 PM   #126
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meh so what? I don't agree with political action but I think the twist to your regularly scheduled programing is actually a redeeming aspect of it.
It depends if you actually want to see any of his ideas implemented into society or if this is just a hypothetical intellectual hobby for you.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:39 PM   #127
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It depends if you actually want to see any of his ideas implemented into society or if this is just a hypothetical intellectual hobby for you.
I want to see "his ideas" go into society in a long-term way. I don't think he should avoid national attention because the media is too mean to him or something. Ultimately they don't control the merit of the ideas.
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Old 04-25-2011, 04:56 PM   #128
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

Read today that Ron Paul will be on John Stossel's show in a few days.

"Where Did All the Anti-War Protestors Go?"
http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com...protestors-go/

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Amazing. Especially because the war in Afghanistan ramped up after Obama was elected. American fatalities shot up in 2009 and 2010.
The protesters have remained silent over Libya.
And I’m struck by the hypocrisy of the supposedly “anti-war” politicians who voted against Iraq, like Nancy Pelosi. Since Obama was elected, she has voted to continue the war in Afghanistan … and supported the attack on Libya.
Only a handful of Congressmen have remained principled on foreign intervention. One of them is Ron Paul. On my FBN show this week, I’ll talk with him about why he opposes our “aggressive foreign policy.” Thursday at 10pm EST.


Read more: http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com...#ixzz1KZRJ9Npc
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Old 04-25-2011, 05:05 PM   #129
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

He should use all of his donations to constantly adversive on television for himself and libertarianism.
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:40 PM   #130
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is Ron Paul participating in the debate May 5th?
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:19 PM   #131
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:19 PM   #132
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is Ron Paul participating in the debate May 5th?
Yes.
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:25 PM   #133
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5yN3eExXvs

Dr. Paul on The View today.
When on shows like this and asked questions about his thoughts on entitlement programs I think Paul should make the point that if he were to be in control he wouldn't just end Medicare, Medicaid and SS in one day. He's said before that he understands people have built a dependency on these programs and that they would have to be slowly weaned off it.

Basically, I think your average The View viewer might be freaked out by a guy who theoretically wants to end such programs as OMG Granny will be thrown out on the street!
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:48 PM   #134
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/polit...paign-20110425
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:52 PM   #135
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Fire up the blimp!
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