Well, if he's worried about not paying IN as much taxes, it'd seem he is worried about people "stealing" from him iyam. Or is he just the moral police, suggesting these things so the poor can sleep better at night knowing they aren't stealing?

No one thinks Ron Paul is anywhere close to perfect.

Still no reason to believe he's racist though unless you just want to believe.

It wouldn't make enough of a difference.

Will that child pick onions for 10 hrs a day for the family?

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Sort of, lol.

Food stamps are not being equated to slavery.

If a slave master gave all his ill-gotten gains to poor starving children, does that make his enslaving of people to make it happen okay?

It the source of the money, not how the money is used that we're talking about.

If you don't want to pay income tax, don't work. A slave doesn't have that option.

Libertarians. They have to be to keep from getting locked up!

Don't work and get whipped. Don't work and become homeless. Lovely options you're giving people.

You do realize that that the comparison was that it's a LESSER form of slavery, right? Not that it's exactly the same?

And starve myself and my family. Same as execution imo.

Exactly. Why think when you can lash out?

I could go back and cite your article where you said that illegal immigrants pay taxes, but I'm to lazy. You can compare numbers of govt. reports as well. Also, around 50% of the population basically doesn't pay taxes the way the system is set up. I doubt the immigrant population coming in would instantly jump into an income bracket where they are net payers of taxes.

Is share-cropping the same as slavery? Nope, but, I'm sure share-croppers thought it was damn near close.

You mean the article which said that virtually all economists agree they are a net benefit to our economy?

For the umpteenth time, this statement is false.

Yeah, that's just not true. Maybe not income tax, but there are plenty of other taxes out there. Sales tax, inflation, gas tax, etc. Also, on property tax, it's just passed along to the renter, so that counts too.

Or run for president twice and get defended constantly by random people called AlexM.

Good job making an argument you have personally defeated already genius.

You still dont get the analogy.

The tap at number 12 is dripping and you want to cut off water to the entire block.

If there is a problem with migrants getting these benefits - dont let them get the benefits (jesus its not hard!). Have a path to citizenship that lets them earn access to various benefits based on taxes they have paid from their labour. You dont need to cut off all the water, just fix the dripping tap!

1, they do pay taxes including payroll, state, sales and property taxes.
2, they dont need to personally be a net payer of taxes because the economy grows by an influx of labour at the bottom as people get rich at the top.
3, sliding scales on what benefits they can access ftw. Most would travel to America to get zero benefits if only to get their kids some quality education and a chance to make better of their life than they did.
4, to repeat 2 - migrants grow the economy!

And it's only ~16% of the population that has non-social-security income and that doesn't pay income taxes.

Ya, sorry I am talking about the federal income tax when I say they don't pay taxes. I thought this was assumed because I was taking about the federal budget. Sorry, I try to keep my stuff concise.

Where did I ever say that immigrants weren't a net posistive for the economy?

And ok that's fine we could not offer them benefits that normal citizens get. I didn't want to give that option because I was afraid that I would be called racist.

I was making an argument? Neato!

Hard to believe, but, I'll take your word. I know when I was making 20k a year living by myself I was certainly not paying a dime in Federal Income tax.

A question for the wingnuts who favor banning racists from having private racist clubs.

When gay marriage is legalized, do you think we should force all churches to perform gay marriages?

But you were paying payroll taxes, which is a federal tax that goes into the general fund.

But about 1/3 of the 50% who pay no income tax have no income, and another third are seniors whose only income is Social Security payments, which aren't taxed.