Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

[leavesofliberty]

the people contradict themselves in their views all the time. I mean, why tip-toe around a great opportunity to educate (regarding SS)?

[mosdef]

Originally Posted by ALawPoker

So what are you saying? RP should explain this thing that most people have a horrible knee jerk reaction to?

Sure. I mean, it's a completely fair question to ask what's going to happen to people that don't save if you allow them to opt out of SS now. He'll be dead long before today's 25 year olds want to retire. Some other president is going to be forced to deal with the public policy issue of people not being able to afford to retire. This was a meaningful problem when SS was created, it's going to be an even bigger problem decades from now when people are going to be living much, much longer than they were when SS was created.

[General Tsao]

I'd like to read the libertarian view on why/how SS was created and whether it was necessary.

link to mises article which must exist anyone?

[LirvA]

Originally Posted by mosdef

I hear you, but that's exactly what people don't want. For most people, "Let their family voluntarily bail them out, charities, all voluntarily, but don't force tax payers to bail them out" = "Old people die in the streets".

Yeah and it's a shame most people prefer socialism over personal responsibility and individualism.

[LirvA]

Originally Posted by General Tsao

I'd like to read the libertarian view on why/how SS was created and whether it was necessary.

link to mises article which must exist anyone?

Milton Friedman covers SS in free to choose - cradle to grave

[LirvA]

(dont know of any articles off hand imo)

[Fermion5]

CNN National Poll
11/18 - 11/20

Gingrich 24%
Romney 22%
Cain 17%
Perry 11%
Paul 9%
Bachmann 5%
Santorum 4%
Huntsman 3%

[Fermion5]

Politico: Occupy Wall Street crashes Ron Paul event

And here's the youtube.

Members of the Occupy Wall Street crashed a town hall being hosted by Rep. Ron Paul at Keene State College in New Hampshire today.

At the conclusion of his speech, a group of protestors launched into their call and response that has become emblematic of the movement, with one member shouting a phrase and the larger group repeating it.

“There is something wrong with this system,” the protesters concluded. “We are the 99 percent.”

The group spoke for less than a minute, with a handful of Paul supporters beginning to shout back at the end.

Paul chuckled when they were done.

“Do you feel better?” he asked.

But then he got serious, pointing out that he agreed with some of their concerns.

“The people on Wall Street got the bailout and you guys got the bills and I think that’s where the problem is,” he said.

[Fear Itself]

Damn that's some awkward video right there. Good save by Paul though.

[bgomez89]

damn RP is a boss

[Fermion5]

Another video of the OWS protestors at RP townhall

[Fermion5]

New Hampshire poll
Suffolk University and WHDH-TV
400 likely GOP voters
Nov. 16-20

Romney 41
Paul 14
Gingrich 14
Huntsman 9
Cain 8
Santorum 3
Perry 2
Bachmann 1

It contradicts another poll -- released last week and conducted by New Hampshire Journal/Magellan Strategies -- that showed Gingrich and Romney in a dead heat in New Hampshire.

[Fermion5]

A couple videos...

Ron Paul speech at the Christian Union Church in Indianola, Iowa 11/19/11
"The Chinese Are Our Bankers, They're Not Going to Attack Us"

Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 11/21/11: Dr. Paul's Message to the Super Committee - Cut Spending and Balance the Budget Now

[bgomez89]

Originally Posted by Fermion5

New Hampshire poll
Suffolk University and WHDH-TV
400 likely GOP voters
Nov. 16-20

Romney 41
Paul 14
Gingrich 14
Huntsman 9
Cain 8
Santorum 3
Perry 2
Bachmann 1

Is this the same poll that had RP at 17%?

[Fermion5]

Originally Posted by bgomez89

Is this the same poll that had RP at 17%?

nope. Check RCP at link here.

Last 4-5 NH polls have each been done by a diff polling organization.