Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread - Page 344 - Politics and Economics

Speaking of the "ZOMG 10K BET WTF" hysteria, I don't remember seeing any TV news story actually investigate whether or not romney would have won the bet had newt agreed to it. I actually am not even sure what the bet was because all the media talked about was ZOMG OUT OF TOUCH.

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Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle

Most of the stories I saw said Romney would have won the bet, but Huntsman and Perry's camp say otherwise. So tie?

He would have technically won because the line isn't in his book but he has said it numerous times.

12-15-2011 , 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

I don't think you guys fully understand that some people(namely me) think that Ron Paul is an embarrassment to the libertarian movement. The way he plays to the goldbug/neo-Confederate/conspiritard/white Christian nationalist wings of the electorate hurt the chances that his good ideas about the drug war and foreign policy will be implemented.

He isn't doing that though. "Plays" implies current tense. Show me where he is doing that in this campaign cycle. Or the last one.

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12-15-2011 , 12:46 PM

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Some campaign needs to work on a Ging-Grinch add for the xmas season.

12-15-2011 , 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Ps I know that Paul is anti interventionist, but not isolationist but they use them inter changeably

Because how else are you supposed to interact with brown people other than blowing them up?

12-15-2011 , 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Wait, what? How are they not troubling?

Because they have very, very little predictive power of any actual substantive policy changes we could expect from an RP administration.

They have lots of predictive power of emotional flipouts from people who would rather talk about appearances.

example: your post

12-15-2011 , 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sholar

"Intrade showing Paul between 31.2% and 34.2% to win Iowa now."

In other words, there is no change from the earlier post...

Nate has RP at 28% for winning.

12-15-2011 , 12:52 PM

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Bob Barr, 2008 Libertarian Party nominee, endorses Newt Gingrich.

Barr confirmed butthurt over RP in 2008 endorsing Constitution Party over him.

12-15-2011 , 12:58 PM

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ARG poll - New Hampshire
12/11-12/14

Romney 35%
Paul 21%
Gingrich 16%
Huntsman 13%
Bachmann 4%
Perry 2%
Santorum 1%
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Rasmussen Poll - IOWA

Romney 23
Gingrich 20
Paul 18
Perry 10
Bachmann 9
Santorum 6
Huntsman 5

12-15-2011 , 01:01 PM

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Ron Paul's numbers just keep getting stronger and stronger. I think he's beginning to surge folks, hold on to your hats!

12-15-2011 , 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

Nate has RP at 28% for winning.

Does Nate's model take into account the likelihood of Paul being able to out-caucus his polling results?

12-15-2011 , 01:04 PM

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Ron Paul with Jan Mickelson, an Iowa talk show host - 12/15/11

12-15-2011 , 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SL__72

Does Nate's model take into account the likelihood of Paul being able to out-caucus his polling results?

no. I'm pretty sure it's just statistics.

12-15-2011 , 01:06 PM

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ron paul has to be the favorite to win Iowa at this point.. Newt's just starting his downward spiral

12-15-2011 , 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SL__72

He isn't doing that though. "Plays" implies current tense. Show me where he is doing that in this campaign cycle. Or the last one.

He has certainly courted christian religious conservatives and has certainly played up his (apparent) belief in the bible etc as a means to gain more voters...voters with many views typically far from "mainstream" libertarians.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/s...150637605.html

12-15-2011 , 01:08 PM

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Joe Rogan will be on Jay Leno this friday, along with Ron Paul. Nice of him to wear a RP shirt and endorse him on the show =)

12-15-2011 , 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spino1i

Ron Paul's numbers just keep getting stronger and stronger. I think he's beginning to surge folks, hold on to your hats!

Racist Newsletters tho

12-15-2011 , 01:11 PM

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Racist Newsletters tho

Have a hard time seeing this not being brought up tonight.

If Gingrich flops in Iowa, Huntsman doesn't surge, and the race looks to be between Romney and Paul in New Hampshire, there are enough Republicans behind Gingrich and Independents behind Huntsman to push Paul to victory.

12-15-2011 , 01:19 PM

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I feel like the racist newsletters are old hat and people already know about them and just dont care. Do you guys really think its going to blunt Paul's surge?

12-15-2011 , 01:22 PM

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You really think the average Iowan, or American, knows about those newsletters? (They don't)

12-15-2011 , 01:22 PM

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You really think the average Iowan knows about those newsletters? (They don't)

I think a good chunk of Iowans already behind Paul know about them, but yeh I would say the general electorate of Iowa doesnt. Still I feel like its not going to make a big difference.

12-15-2011 , 01:26 PM

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CNN segment on Paul's organization and following 12/14/11

12-15-2011 , 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by spino1i

I feel like the racist newsletters are old hat and people already know about them and just dont care. Do you guys really think its going to blunt Paul's surge?

I'm not sure about this. Yes, they came up before but voters are ******ed and probably don't remember or they didn't even notice in 2008.

12-15-2011 , 01:27 PM

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Well at the very least we know Paul is exceptionally strong when his opponents resort to the newsletters, it has to be a good sign when it happens.

12-15-2011 , 01:28 PM

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It may not make a difference at all but a lot of those just getting behind him most likely don't know about this. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the younger crowd didn't. If we do another rally and see a bunch of them I'll ask if they know. It's the only time I see Paul supporters =\

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