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Old 05-15-2011, 02:12 AM   #466
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So a debate spectacle will somehow convince the general population to discard what they currently think, to just jump on a cult themed political movement? With a wacky leader?


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In this nationwide survey of 3,517 adults, undeclared candidate Mr. Perot leads with 36 percent support, compared with 31 percent for President Bush and 27 percent for Democrat Bill Clinton.
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:21 AM   #467
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I guess where I was going was, for this Liberty Campaign to gain some serious traction, his message needs to be tailored for a wider audience, one who is currently involved in the electoral process. If this forum is a microcosm of general Libertarians, they don't vote. Then to preach, like a parent would to a wayward child, about all the bad things out there, and then state a proper position that should be taken, isn't palatable to teenagers, let alone 40+ adults.

The problem I see, is if his message becomes tempered to attract a larger audience, his current core will consider him to be a sell out, and then condemn him for it. Brings me back to Politics 101, the need to convince the non-believers, generally requires a certain amount of compromise. At a maximum during the "suckup" phase, the election.
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:26 AM   #468
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Amazing that 1992 never happened until the 2010 midterms. How many of those same outsiders will be looking for new jobs after the 2012 general?

The Perot video is amazingly close to Herman Cain's idea of debating.
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:16 AM   #469
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Libertarianism is not a "cult", and the compromises have already been made. You want Ron Paul to abandon libertarianism to have a better chance at being elected, but that will only undermine everything he's trying to accomplish. But thanks for the condescension. You have nothing interesting to say.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

Ron Paul Interview On Fox News Sunday 5/15/11
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:33 PM   #471
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Huckabee is out of the running. Should be good for Paul's chances.

Also, Ron Paul will be on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace.
Ron Paul does not have ANY chance...

He is 77 years old...
He is 77 years old...
He is 77 years old...

And he tops out at 10% of Republican vote...
And he tops out at 10% of Republican vote...
And he tops out at 10% of Republican vote...

And he is a pure-as-snow ideologue...
Which means facts don't matter...
When they contradict his ideological beliefs.

That said, Ron Paul = Good Thing.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:38 PM   #472
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

he's got a 20 or 30 to 1 shot. If you believe he has no shot, then bet me at 100 to 1.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:23 PM   #473
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

I'd take 20:1 for Republican nomination, but it would have to be priced in gold.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:51 PM   #474
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lol "johnny come lately"

good answer to that last question, IMO.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread

I like how now he's always controversial when they introduce him.
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what, as opposed to just being "fringe" last time around?
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:01 PM   #477
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Exactly.
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God these are just the same questions repeated over and over and over. Stupid mind-numbing media.
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Gotta reduce politics to the soundbite!
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And he is a pure-as-snow ideologue...
Which means facts don't matter...
When they contradict his ideological beliefs.
The RP containment thread seems like a weird place to get all introspective.
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