Ron Paul 2012 Containment Thread - Page 232 - Politics and Economics

Bachmann won the Ames straw poll, not "the Iowa" poll. It's inaccurate to describe these as "the" Ohio poll or whatever, a straw poll occurs at a specific convention or event. They aren't official elections like the caucuses and primaries.

10-23-2011 , 12:50 PM

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General Tsao

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wait...bachmann isn't now the governor of Iowa? wow, thanks fly we were all so confused.

10-23-2011 , 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Raker

No matter what the amount it's probably not going to happen... might as well make it worth it. Just having to PM details with somebody sort of dim and angry has a cost, as I learned in other bets I made recently

in this forum Max Raker learns the benefit of insurance.

10-23-2011 , 01:22 PM

#5779

Alex Wice

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Just for everyones info about how sick max raker is, I would not bet at even money vs max raker at an IQ test even getting a +25 point spot, which is an absurd spot. (I expect my IQ to be in the 140s)

10-23-2011 , 02:16 PM

#5780

Schwallie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Ice

Dunno if being serious or..

10-23-2011 , 02:18 PM

#5781

Schwallie

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Didn't Paul take down Ohio straw poll? Or did I miss that discussion?

10-23-2011 , 02:43 PM

#5782

LirvA

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Ron Paul confirmed crushed meet the press

10-23-2011 , 02:46 PM

#5783

chadmack

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cVwlGYuA4

10-23-2011 , 02:51 PM

#5784

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questions are hilarious

'why do you want to make thees draconian cuts'

'a lot of your supporters are young people - tell me about how you want to cancel the student aid programs'

'under president paul, osama bin laden and gaddafi would still be alive...'

lulz, media moves this guy

10-23-2011 , 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chadmack

'under president paul, osama bin laden and gaddafi would still be alive...'

Seems pretty straightforward to me. We obviously had to invade Iraq and make sure there were no terrorists or wmd's there first, before we could move on to pursuing Osama Bin Laden. You can't put the cart before the horse.

10-23-2011 , 03:09 PM

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This isn't the first time that I've seen an interviewer assume that Ron Paul would not have gone after Bin Laden. Where the hell did they get that idea from? Remember the days when Tim Russert actually did some fact checking and background research on MTP? Used to be a great program.

10-23-2011 , 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Pretty much what I was trying to say before things got sidetracked with the media bias discussion.

I think it's pretty noncontroversial to say that the straw polls are irrelevant, and if say. Parry had won them, the RP guys would be agreeing with me.

10-23-2011 , 03:22 PM

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Straw Polls are relevant for a bunch of reasons. They give a good idea of how party insiders are leaning. These party insiders volunteer, donate, convince people to vote, etc, etc. They also show which campaigns are organized and can motivate supporters.

10-23-2011 , 03:31 PM

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max raker is a theoretical particle physics phd student at standford iirc, lol IQ tests and everything but i'm guessing he would destroy most of the clowns in here

10-23-2011 , 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Right, they're irrelevant ... when Ron Paul wins them.

What catapulted Herman Cain into the spot light? His Florida straw poll win, and the media's positive coverage had a lot to do with that, no?

10-23-2011 , 03:32 PM

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They're useful for weeding out the completely hopeless campaigns like T-Paw, and for convincing people to donate $, but they aren't remotely useful as predictors for the state primary.

^^ and I'm pretty sure Cain got into the spotlight based on his performance in the first debate. And yes, they're irrleevant even when non-RP candidates win them. Bachmann is trailing in every Iowa state poll.

10-23-2011 , 03:36 PM

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[citation needed]

10-23-2011 , 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckRaise

max raker is a theoretical particle physics phd student at standford iirc, lol IQ tests and everything but i'm guessing he would destroy most of the clowns in here

who the **** gives a ****?

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10-23-2011 , 03:42 PM

#5794

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Originally Posted by Wraths Unanimous

[citation needed]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...es-primary-vo/

10-23-2011 , 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Ice

If you set a minimum IQ (which also specifies a mean looking at the normal distribution) and look at the distribution your breakeven point here with +25 is like minimum 113 (mean 120) here FWIW, and that's at even money.

10-23-2011 , 03:55 PM

#5796

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Raker

You can (temporarily) PM me to keep this stuff out of this thread. Not sure what poker has to do with the conversation though.

lol, seriously? you offered an outrageous IQ bet that you knew never had a chance of taking place. i countered with a less relevant (but still relevant) and infinitely more practical competition ... this is a poker forum and all. feels strange to be explaining this to a guy w/ an IQ of 195.

10-23-2011 , 03:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...es-primary-vo/

Lol yes he was in the spotlight of one blog in may. But he didn't even start rising in the polls and actually getting attention until about a month ago after the Florida straw poll. See realclearpolitics for actual evidence, not some random blog that had their eyes on Cain in may.

10-23-2011 , 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...es-primary-vo/

Quote:

Published on May 6, 2011

Quote:

Sat, Sep 24, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain won the "Presidency 5" straw poll Saturday, fetching 37 percent of the vote and upsetting Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who trailed Cain by more than 20 points.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/h...214955437.html

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10-23-2011 , 03:58 PM

#5799

LirvA

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can you peoples take the ridiculous Max Raker IQ bull**** to the LC thread?

10-23-2011 , 04:20 PM

#5800

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Raker

I only used IQ because it is the most well known measure. I would be fine with any reasonable measure that can be bet on. It only came up because of that dude's post and figured if he was dumb enough to make it he might be dumb enough to bet on it

.

I would want to bet around 100k and it probably wouldn't be worth the effort (meeting somewhere, getting an official test that I could not have seen before etc) for less than 20k. You can PM if you are interested.

Wow epic epeen waving itt.

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