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05-22-2017 , 01:11 PM
Basically when Ron Fournier dies I'm not just going to post **** online, I'm going to send a wreath with "America is better without him" on it to his funeral precisely because I know nobody in his family reads 2p2.
05-22-2017 , 01:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Not to just constantly, constantly dunk on him but chezlaw is sort of the product of the asymmetry between the right and left.

Obviously he doesn't hold leftist principles on any issue, but he does adopt left wing rhetoric on one subject consistently: civility.

Ailes ran a channel that gleefully makes **** up, is constantly insanely racist, that regularly accuses their political opponents of being baby-killing Sharia law anti-American pinheads.

But the broader liberal discourse relentlessly, relentlessly, not merely DIDN'T engage in any sort of meaningful counter to that, its media outlets worked tirelessly to do puff pieces trying to redeem some of the godawful policy makers on the right. See everything ever written about wonkish poverty opponent Paul Ryan.

So the idea that May's government is literally a threat to the safety net, the idea that Ryan budget and AHCA will actually kill people, that's all making stuff up to be mean. The right wing didn't even need to push back when anyone on the left fought fire with fire, the liberal zeitgeist created a ****ing social norm that ACCURATELY DESCRIBING THE RIGHT WING'S POLITICAL POSITIONS AND MOTIVATIONS was uncivil and must never be done. And the way that filtered down to the general public is that the right wing's base was motivated to prevent atheist Kenyan Muslims from taking their guns, but the left's base got ****ing pablum about working together across the aisle for entitlement reform.

And so we see that in like chezlaw's posts where he will literally yell at liberals for disagreeing with conservatives and, while the right winger is still posting in a thread, will work overtime to lie about that posters motivations and demand that people pretend that everyone wants the same amorphously technocratic multicultural outcomes.


So we get **** like the right moving to all sorts of horrifically racist policies that nevertheless checked the "Politically Correct" box and the Discourse Monitors getting upset about people calling Trump voters racist. The basket of deplorables was seen as IMMORAL by Clinton because it insulted the voting public, the Muslim ban was an "extreme" policy that has constitutional concerns.
Exactly right.
05-22-2017 , 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Not to just constantly, constantly dunk on him but chezlaw is sort of the product of the asymmetry between the right and left.

Obviously he doesn't hold leftist principles on any issue, but he does adopt left wing rhetoric on one subject consistently: civility.

Ailes ran a channel that gleefully makes **** up, is constantly insanely racist, that regularly accuses their political opponents of being baby-killing Sharia law anti-American pinheads.

But the broader liberal discourse relentlessly, relentlessly, not merely DIDN'T engage in any sort of meaningful counter to that, its media outlets worked tirelessly to do puff pieces trying to redeem some of the godawful policy makers on the right. See everything ever written about wonkish poverty opponent Paul Ryan.

So the idea that May's government is literally a threat to the safety net, the idea that Ryan budget and AHCA will actually kill people, that's all making stuff up to be mean. The right wing didn't even need to push back when anyone on the left fought fire with fire, the liberal zeitgeist created a ****ing social norm that ACCURATELY DESCRIBING THE RIGHT WING'S POLITICAL POSITIONS AND MOTIVATIONS was uncivil and must never be done. And the way that filtered down to the general public is that the right wing's base was motivated to prevent atheist Kenyan Muslims from taking their guns, but the left's base got ****ing pablum about working together across the aisle for entitlement reform.

And so we see that in like chezlaw's posts where he will literally yell at liberals for disagreeing with conservatives and, while the right winger is still posting in a thread, will work overtime to lie about that posters motivations and demand that people pretend that everyone wants the same amorphously technocratic multicultural outcomes.


So we get **** like the right moving to all sorts of horrifically racist policies that nevertheless checked the "Politically Correct" box and the Discourse Monitors getting upset about people calling Trump voters racist. The basket of deplorables was seen as IMMORAL by Clinton because it insulted the voting public, the Muslim ban was an "extreme" policy that has constitutional concerns.
Relevant:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/s...y-survive.html

Quote:
Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama flexed their executive muscles. Mr. Bush enhanced the president’s control over national security after the Sept. 11 attacks by opening Guantánamo, trying terrorism suspects before military tribunals, and authorizing warrantless wiretapping. Mr. Obama took unilateral aggressive actions to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and reform immigration.

They left the office stronger than when they arrived. Although their policies were controversial, both presidents were given deference because they made their judgments conscientiously and led the government professionally.
One man used executive power to curtail civil rights and torture, the other reformed immigration policy, but both were professional and conscientious.

One man used the axe to hew down trees and make a bird house, the other to murder their neighbors and eat their faces, but both showed great survivalist skills with the blade and should be commended for their ingenuity.

This is the New York ****ing Times by the way.
05-22-2017 , 07:24 PM
Congrats to chez on being the #1 spammer itt who also claims not to care about the subject of his spamming

      
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