You did catch him on an exaggeration. It was really only 125-140K or so documented civilian deaths. Total deaths due to the war is approx 188K.

If the non-American civilians killed isn't over 200K is it even relevant?

never forget the Benghazi 4!

It is awfully Bushy for sure.

No, you absolutely don't wonder that. This insincerity is transparent. But dude, yeah, definitely time to spin up relitigating the Iraq war. That's something that Jeb should center 2016 around, nitpicking about exactly how many Iraqi civilians his brother's pointless and illegal war killed is A+ good thinking.

What the **** are you even talking about?

See, again, it's the shamelessness of your lies. For someone who was allegedly sincerely, sincerely outraged about Obama's Nixonesque violation of the 30 day rule, "Bush the education president" is a ****ing baffling myth for you to buy into! You should DESPISE him. You should've spent 2003-present in a frothy jittery rage over that ****.

We see through it. Your kind can't pull off the lying. I know you do it a lot, you'd think you'd be better at it, but you're not.

#Bergdhazi

Lol at there being a conspiracy theory that this was done to distract from the VA stuff.

Has anyone made an attack along the lines of "Obama saved one Muslim traitor but let four true Americans die in Benghazi" yet?

LO freaking L at Obama lovers saying conservatives have no right to complain about The terms of Bergdahl's release because it was conservatives who were demanding something be done in the first place.

First of all nobody was saying we should swap five Gitmo prisoners for Bergdahl and second of all since when has Obama ever done anything to appease the conservative Tweetosphere? The answer to that question is "never" and attempting to put blame on conservatives for an absolutely God awful prisoner swap is beyond ridiculous. This swap, if you can even call it that as it was so fresking lopsided, was done for the sole purpose of stemming the negative publicity the Democratic Party is receiving leading up to the midterm elections.

Everything Obama touches turns to absolute ****. He should stick to the one thing he's good at, taking lavish vacations at taxpayer expense. If he sticks to doing the one thing he's good at for the rest of his presidency this country will be far better off going forward.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/01/21...scue-sergeant/

Woah there. Is anyone blaming the right for the swap? Alot of posts ITT and I don't see that. I think everyone is laughing at ******ed right-wingers for pivoting on a moments notice from "OBAMA LEFT BERGDAHL BEHIND!!" to "OBAMA SAVED A TRAITOR, NEGOTIATED WITH THE TERRARIST, INPEACH" the moment the swap happened, not like literally blaming the right for the terms or the fact that it happened. No one as far as I can see is arguing Obama succumbed to political pressure, just that the right-wing is ******ed.

Please explain yourself now in light of this correction of the tone and tenor of what is being discussed, again bearing in mind that the issue here is that the American right-wing is clowntarding up this issue.

When TZ meets Politics everybody loses.

His knee jerk rant here though is a nice example of the kind of unfocused frothy rage the right gets into. He's getting pissed at strawmen he's creating in his head. But one thing he's sure of is that "the sole purpose of" the swap was to stem negative publicity and that "Everything Obama touches turns to absolute ****. He should stick to the one thing he's good at, taking lavish vacations at taxpayer expense."

Its like our own version of the people we're bemoaning but this one is ours.

So few/lot of Reps changed their minds after learning he was a deserter and not captured in war. That is not dishonesty or being a hypocrite.

If your taking a poll on the question of if your in favor of trading for POW v. in favor of trading for a deserter captured by your enemy I would guess those question would have a huge disparity in the number in favor. For a lot of people the fact on how he was captured is important to deciding if it was a good or bad deal. Saying he was captured in battle and served honorably is not "framing" it is mistating the evidence.

It is also just a political ploy to act like the Reps are ZOMG criticizing Obama for no reason. As you pointed out there are a number of issues where someone could be critical of Obama on this deal, but the left is only ZOMG the right is racist cause some on twitter don't like this deal and prior to learning the facts about the deal sounded like they would like it.

Some on Twitter and also some in the media and also John ****ing McCain, you know, some on Twitter.

LOL tho, at the general defeatism of "oh please, please, don't go looking for absolutely representative members of my political philosophy's public statements, of course they'll be hilariously ill informed hypocrites"

I don't know how an actual body count can have a range. But these are documented civilian deaths from US bullets and bombs, or Shia on Sunni "ethnic /extremism/cleansing?

Do these numbers come from Tariq Aziz, the Red Cross/Crescent or the Huffpo?

Inquiring minds want to know.

So how many of the people who were previously passing ZOMG THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ABANDONED OUR HERO SOLIDER around the derposphere without knowing WTF they were talking about will pause and think about how they were wrong before passing the next ZOMG OBAMA EATS PUPPIES chain mail around the derposphere?

So what is your point? McCain said he might be in favor depending on the details.

But it is not like some or a lot Reps when congress was told did not express concerns going back to 2012,

I would guess there's a range because they rely on tallies from different sources. Some of those sources may be using estimates based on missing people and such.

They are civilian deaths since the Iraqi invasion. They are not a tally of US bullets. But we can all agree that we are the ones who started the war.

Oh - I went here https://www.iraqbodycount.org/ they list their methodology if your mind is inquiring.

Look up the civilian death count to basically any war in history and then get back to us, thanks. I'll give you a headstart, though: the number is ALWAYS a range because recording every single person who gets killed by collateral damage while you're in a war is probably difficult, especially in countries where the government is far less organized for recording individuals. than a place like the U.S.

When you say deserter you give the game away

Haven't been following this closely, but hasn't it been established that he deserted his post?

No he was relieved and walked off base

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/04/us/7-q...l-controversy/

Important to note that he left the base and was captured in a latrine. If I understand it correctly, they had transcripts from his captors where they were noting there they knew he was in the toilet and was going to snatch him.

Many in the derposphere are claiming he went to the otherside and wasn't captured. It appears he deserted the base and was captured. (they're not mutually exclusive)

If by derposphere you mean his fellow soldiers who believed/have evidence that he was looking to make ntact with the taliban you would be correct.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...iban-n1847233#!

lolz

Marine Todd is not happy